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Sadie: Hmm. What is this?

Shine: Ok, and let’s cut there.
Surgeon: Awesome!
Shine: Yay, that was very, very good!
Surgeon: Oh, yeah. Can I pick you up for second?
Chocolate Chip: Sure!
Unknown: (Whispering) Nice pussy
(Laughter)
Hand: Good?
Camera: Yes.
Hand: (Clap)
Camera: Awesome

Surgeon: So, um. How did you like the shoot today?
Sadie: I liked it.
CC: I also liked it!
Sadie: Check
Surgeon: I also enjoyed it.
Sadie: Oh, I see, you’re mixing it up a little there! Do you think you enjoyed it more than we liked it?
Surgeon: I mean, I don’t really quantify things that way, but
Sadie: If you had to make a guess?
Surgeon: If I had to, yes
Sadie: Oooh! Shit.
Surgeon: Apples and oranges, really
Sadie: Fair enough. How ’bout you? (to CC)
CC: Um, yeah, it was um.
Sadie: Have you done much porn?
CC: Not very much, I’ve done a little bit, but uh, yeah I’m still really new to it. Yeah, and like I-
Surgeon: Do you want to keep doing it?
CC: Yes. I do. I don’t, like… like especially, um, in environments that are really sex-positive, and, like, queer, and
(inaudible), like it’s always ends up being this, like, spiritual thing for me. Like, afterwards
Sadie: Nice
Surgeon: Mmhmm.
CC: Like, it’s kind of a big deal
Sadie: Awesome! That’s cool.
CC: it’s beautiful and exciting, so thank you everybody.
Sadie: Yeah. I like things that are big deals. Was there anything –
Surgeon: You?
Sadie: Oh, me? Um
Surgeon: Porn. You’re a hard core pornster, kinda, sorta.
Sadie: I don’t know if I’m hard core, I mean, hey, a lady’s got to pay her rent
Surgeon: Frequent contributor. For porn
Sadie: Hey, I, I do enjoy doing porn, um. It means that I continue to get laid.
CC: Yeah
Sadie: Which is a key element of why porn, especially queer porn is exciting for me. Because, then I can be like, “Hey,
Surgeon, so, like, there’s this like, cool company, and, like, you know, if you wanted to do a porn scene with me, that’d be
cool,”
Surgeon: Yeah
Sadie: “I guess, if you’re into it.”
Surgeon: Yup. Good way to have sex with people
Sadie: Yeah
Surgeon: Good excuse
Sadie: Yeah
Surgeon: Really good pickup line.
Sadie: Yeah
Surgeon: “Will you do this porn with me?” Yeah
Sadie: Yeah. And it was really nice to re-meet you
CC: Yeah
Sadie: In a sexy way
CC: (laughing) Yeah! Totally

Shine: Um, we try not to call hold as much as possible. Sometimes we will call hold if neither camera is in a good position.
Also, please know that at any point in the shoot, you have the, you have the power to call hold. You know, you need more
water, more lube, I just need to take a break, whatever, something needs to stop.

Sadie: Are you okay? Is everything alright? (laughter)
Hand: (clap)
Unknown: Awesome
Shine: Good

Sadie: Um, did any, did you guys find things challenging? or things difficult?
CC: I think, being, like I’m kind-of an introverted person, it’s always a little bit challenging, but yeah, so (laughter)
like, yeah, it’s always tricky trying to get out of myself and letting myself just, like have fun and, like, feel good, can
be a little tricky.
Sadie: That is, that is hard, in like, sex in general, not just in porn, of like, I think, we especially get this idea that,
like, we’re supposed to look a certain way or sound a certain way, you know, like, I don’t know. I have moments. Especially
with people that I’m, like, not, I don’t know that well when I have sex, whether it’s porn or not, where I’m like into it,
and then suddenly I’m like, “OH, what does this look like?” Or, like, “is this, you know, like the right way to be?” Or
whatever. And I think that’s, like, just programming shit.
Surgeon: That’s why I like queer porn also because I feel like, you know, in queer porn I feel like deliberately showing
bodily flaws and awkward moments is, like, part of it
Sadie: Yeah,
Surgeon: it makes it, that’s what makes it hot to me.
Sadie: Right
Surgeon: Versus trying hard to be, create this perfect sex scene
Sadie: With your perfect pussy?
Surgeon: With my perfect pussy.
Sadie: There’s a, there’s a box that says “perfect pussy” in the vicinity,
Surgeon: Yeah
Sadie: and, I resent this box
(laughter)
Sadie: Every time I pass it, I go (grumble). But there’s a box that says “glowing pussy” very near this, this perfect pussy,
and I like the glowing pussy because I’m, that’s fine.
Surgeon: Yeah
Sadie: You had a glowing pussy
CC: Oh, thank you!
Sadie: It’s true!
CC: There were a lot of glowing pussies (giggling)
Sadie: Hooray for the glowing pussies

Surgeon: What do you want your safe word to be?
CC: Um, purple.
(laughter)
Surgeon: Good choice

CC: Oh, shit, I’m so close!
(Moaning)
CC: Could you take your fingers out for a little bit, and I, and I’ll tell you when to put them back in?
Surgeon: Mmhmm. I can.
CC: Can you play with my nipples?

Unknown (Sadie?): Your pussy is beautiful!
CC: (sighing) Ok!
(laughter)
Unknown: Good girl!
CC: who’s next?
(laughter)

CC: What about either of you? Why you continue to do porn?
Sadie: Well, as I mentioned, the getting laid part is key. I don’t know, I think it’s interesting to have, like, sometimes I
think about queer porn happening now as like a really interesting archive of this, like, sexual historic moment, and, like,
who is, like, in the quote-un-quote scene… you know, like, who’s around, what do they look like, what do they like, what
are they doing? Like, how does that change? You know, and I like participating in that. I like feeling, you know, also,
like, how a person, kind of develops sexually, and that there’s, like, archival moments of that. I’ve been thinking a lot of
things in kind-of a, like, history from the future perspective, and I think that that’s a really cool aspect of what’s going
on right now

Surgeon: Yeah, I think, I mean, certainly not… I do it for the love of art, you know, like I do it because it’s part of,
like-
Sadie: So, can I see your etchings sometimes?
(laughter)
Surgeon: My watercolors?
Sadie: Yeah
Surgeon: Of perfect pussies? Glowing, nay! Glowing pussies!
Sadie: Nay!
Surgeon:Nay!
Sadie: Nay! Speak not too soon!
(laughter continues)
Surgeon: No, but I think, I think in some ways, it’s like a personal- it’s like a continuation of performance, for me. It’s
something that- it’s something that is, it is a record, and an experiment and it is, you know, it’s imagery that I want to
see, whether I’m looking at it-
Sadie: Right
Surgeon: or in it, or whatever
Sadie: Totally
Surgeon: It’s like, I want this kind of imagery to exist in the world, so I’m into making it. You know?
Sadie: Yeah.
Surgeon: Yeah
Sadie: I like that I can be a creep. I’ve been really into the fact that I’m a creep in the last, like, two years, or
something like that? And I like that that is, like, a thing in queer porn that is really available and fine, to, like- I
think that I have a lot of, like, internal-external discord in terms of, like, who I am, versus, like, what people see. And,
so I like having those moments of, like,
Surgeon: Totally
Sadie: “Actually, this is, like, what it’s all about on the inside.”
Surgeon: Yeah

Sadie: Hey. Have you ever had sex before?
CC: Yes. (laughing)
*Sadie: You have?
CC: Yeah
Sadie: Why are you wearing boots like that when you’re going to have sex. You know that’s just going to be a problem.

Sadie: I want to see your ass. Show me your ass. (to CC)

Sadie: Kiss her. (to CC)

Surgeon: (whispering) inaudible
Sadie: Have you ever sucked toes before? (to CC)
CC: Once
Sadie: Once? I wanna see it.

Surgeon: Can I, can I, like, analyze this porn for a second? That we just made?
Sadie: Huh, yeah, do it
Surgeon: I was, I was, like, I couldn’t stop the internal dialogue from happening while we were making the porn, that was
like, about the race relationship between the three of us, yeah.
(Talking all at once)
Sadie: I was thinking of that, too, and like, I actually got uncomfortable about that for a minute once it became, like,
clear to me.
Surgeon: Yeah
Sadie: I was like, “Oh no! I’m, like, the role of the oppressor!”
Surgeon: Yeah, yeah, yeah, white girl, like,
Sadie: Right
Surgeon: White woman directing two women of color
Sadie: I was totally thinking that
Surgeon: Yeah, etcetera etcetera. And also this, like, colorism, you know, like, who’s on top, and stuff like that, and then
I was kind of like, I don’t know, it was interesting to think about it and process it while we were doing it, and like- but,
then, feel really ok about it, in some ways, too, ’cause I feel like in some ways, avoidance of those dynamics, since
they’re just natural, and I was like, “well, these are more like our sexual characters, right?”
CC: Totally
Sadie: Right, yeah
Surgeon: To avoid that, and to do something different, in other ways, would be like subscribing to the same thing, being
like, “well, we can’t really relate in this way” – and so, I just wanted to, like, say that out loud.
CC: Yeah, that’s good*
Surgeon: I was thinking about it, and I was conscious of it, and I wanted to do it anyway.
Sadie: Were you thinking about that? (to CC)
CC: It kinda, it passed my mind earlier, but I think got overridden kind-of intuitively by what you just, like, articulated,
but during the actual act, like, it didn’t cross my mind. I was, like, “this is fun!”
Sadie: To me, I, like, had that idea kind of towards the beginning of, like, the actual sex and it had not occurred to me
before that. And, suddenly, I was like “Eehhhh!” (disgust), and then I was, like, and then I just had to just be, like, go
back to when we were negotiating before-hand, and be, like, yeah, and also, like, this is what everybody is into, and what
they were asking for, and what they wanted, and, like you said, like that, I appreciate portrayals of that however they
shake out.
CC: Yeah
Surgeon: Yeah
Sadie: And that that’s the key

CC: I think what’s interesting, too, the way that how power dynamics can be redefined in, during, like, sexual play. I
always, what I’m, I guess I’m kind-of like a power-bottom in certain ways because I just, I’m so fascinated by how, like,
when stuff starts, people are bossing me around, and I just kind-of see them, just, like, I just, like do whatever they
want, but I still feel like, somehow in power, like I’ll see people just be so into it that they look really horrible**
Sadie: Yeah
Surgeon: Yeah
CC: Yeah and I think that’s so exciting, too.
Sadie: Yeah, to, like, feed on people’s desire.
CC: Mmhmm. Totally
Surgeon: Empowered submissive.=
Sadie: Yeah
Surgeon: Not that that’s necessarily applicable, but it’s a new term that I’ve been using a lot and I really like it.
Sadie: Sounds good, I like that.