After their roleplay scene, Cinnamon and Kitty discuss how sexuality can shift over time, sex as an asexual person, and the ways in which quarantine encouraged self-care.

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(Intro music)

Cinnamon: How did you enjoy the shoot today?

Kitty: I had a really good time. It was really fun. It was nice to shoot a scene where I didn’t feel pressured to do penetrative stuff on myself. I think it’s been interesting sort of exploring my identity as graysexual and not being as sexual as I used to be and being able to still do porn is pretty cool.

How about you?

Cinnamon: I just had a really great time. I’ve always wanted to do something kind of… ‘alien-esque’ … so that was a lot of fun. You made my dream come true. Thank you so much…

Kitty: Absolutely. I know how much you like aliens. And I love a storyline in porn.

Cinnamon: So that was a lot of fun.

Kitty: What was challenging about the shoot for you?

Cinnamon: Hmmmm. I think I always… I always feel like a little bit awkward. So getting rid of those awkward vibes first just like working through them always just like… …don’t like… focus too much on them. Don’t focus on a panic attack too much
you know what I mean? So, yeah. Getting through that.

Kitty: Yeah. Well, and I mean… It’s kind of nice because we’ve worked together before. And so I feel like there’s – but it was a while ago – so there’s that sense of like getting into the rhythm of things again. I think the hardest thing for me was sweating. I was sweating a lot. I am maybe having a hot flash.

(Laughs)

Cinnamon: What are your safer sex practices and why?

Kitty: Generally just not having sex. (Laughs) Which is…”Why?” I mean, I think… I think I kind of burned out on sex for a while and it’s been kind of nice to explore intimacy and sensuality without sex being a part of the equation. I still, I like to use gloves if I’m doing penetrative play. I like to use condoms still. I like to use dental dams. And, honestly a lot of that is because I like to normalize the use of them. I think it’s really important for people to see them as sexy accessories to sex rather than it being like ‘ugh, I guess we gotta do this.’

Though, I did have some problems putting on a condom with my nails. So I guess I’ll have to practice that.

How about you? What are your safer sex practices?

Cinnamon: I would just definitely echo what you said. I want to show them in porn. I want to use them outside of porn because it normalizes the use of them also honestly not having very much sex these days.

Kitty: Yeah, like the pandemic… This thing was shut down. So my safer sex practice? Having sex with myself, and that’s it.

Cinnamon: Absolutely.

Kitty: Well, I know you’ve done porn before. We’ve done porn together. You were the first person I ever worked with. And the last person that I’ve worked with. What makes you keep coming back?

Cinnamon: I just like fucking on camera. Maybe I have a thing about being watched. I don’t know. It’s a lot of fun and I keep doing it also because I’m a bigger person, I’m Black, and I think that I want to encourage more non-binary Black fat performers to see themselves in porn.

Kitty: Yeah, I think that for me, definitely being a bigger person it’s important to me to show that you can be a bigger person and have a healthy sex life. I think it’s also important to me to show that your relationship to sex can change cause I’ve… I did porn for like seven years and then I haven’t done it for a while and being able to come back to it and be like, ‘Yeah, I can still do this’ this is still a part of who I am and also my relationship to sex has changed but that doesn’t mean that it’s off limits to me. I think that’s really important. For other people who might be like ‘oh…’ Is this just off limits now?

Cinnamon: What’s been the best thing about quarantine for you?

Kitty: Oh, I mean… everything. (Laughs) I feel bad. Because for me, honestly quarantine has been fantastic. I work from home anyway so it just meant that other people were now socializing in a way that is most comfortable for me, which is behind a computer screen cause I’m a nerd. I’ve played so much Dungeons and Dragons. Which was awesome. I did a lot of self care and not just self-care in that ‘I took lots of baths’ – which is cool – but like I also got sober and I think that having the bars shut down made that so much easier.
Not being able to go out meant that I had to learn how to enjoy my own company. And so that was just really, really – It’s really good to know that I like myself and that I like spending time with myself.

How about you?

Cinnamon: I would agree with some of those things definitely. Getting to know myself a little bit better, having to spend time with myself and not having to deflect by going out and do nightlife stuff. I needed to take a break from that and without the pandemic I would not have done that for myself. I think that’s something that’s really helped form my brain going forward from here.

Kitty: Yeah I think there’s some really good things to be gained from a forced break

Cinnamon: Yeah, absolutely

(Shine Louise Houston, off camera): Anything else?

Kitty: I like this hair. (Laughs)

Cinnamon: Thank you!