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Surgeon: How did you enjoy the shoot today?

Maggie McMuffin: Loved it, so much. I am probably going to respond to that any time anyone asks me “how did you do on the shoot today?”, like, hide my face… How did you enjoy the shoot today?

Surgeon: I loved it! I loved that we had not met until like five minutes before we jumped into this room, that was super hot.

Maggie McMuffin: That was great!

Maggie McMuffin: I loved it, it was really nice talking to you on the Internet before, coming in just being like “yeah, we’re totally compatible so this is going to be great”.

Surgeon: I just, I kept doing this motion whenever people asked “how do you think you guys are gonna get along?”, I just…

Surgeon: Count to six. Start over.

Maggie McMuffin: One. Two. Three.

Maggie McMuffin: Was there anything challenging about the shoot?

Surgeon: Not a damn thing. No, it was great. Just, timing, just kind of, you know, shoehorning schedules and, be here, and make it happen… but we both did!

Maggie McMuffin: I know, I love how I just landed, and you’re about to go to the airport, like we were really dedicated to making this work!

Surgeon: We had an overlapping window of twelve hours, so, yeah.

Maggie McMuffin: Take advantage of it.

Surgeon: Yeah, totally. Anything challenging for you?

Maggie McMuffin: Um, not… not really, there was just one moment where I know I didn’t get over your shoulder enough, and I just felt like kind of bad, but then you adjusted me and everything else went swimmingly after that. It was just like… I think it’s just coming from a theatre background, where I was like ‘ah, you didn’t nail your mark, you don’t get a re-try, it’s live!’.

Surgeon: I was gonna carry.. do you have other lifts with you, but I was like there’s just not enough space to really play around, so I was like… yeah. And then I crushed your windpipe.

Maggie McMuffin: Oh no, that was fine, I just cough a lot. That… that was not challenging, that was really exciting.

Surgeon: Okay, good, because you had said that you liked being choked, and then I was like, ‘mmm, maybe that was too much’.

Maggie McMuffin: I’ve never been put into a sleeper hold like that, so I didn’t know what my limits around that was, but as soon as you did it I was like ‘I really like this’, because it felt like being hugged… but I couldn’t breathe.

Crew: Wait, is there a condom on this?

Surgeon: Vibrator, stat! We’re losing her! Stay with us, stay with us. Stay with us/

Maggie McMuffin: I’ll try!

Surgeon: What are your safe sex practices and why?

Maggie McMuffin: Um, I always use condoms and hormonal birth control because I don’t want to get pregnant, I want to have control of my body, and I used to be really stringent about gloves, dams, everything, but now I prefer to have conversations with people like, ‘what are your testing practices, when was the last time you were tested, are you in an open relationship, are you monogamous?’, and I really enjoy having instead of like a catch-all, rigid set of rules that I apply to everyone, figuring out what safe sex means with each partner, and then negotiating with each other and finding out what safety means for us together. And there’s something about that that always makes me feel closer to people that I’m going to have sex with, whether it’s in a setting like this, or it’s sheerly personal, or ‘oh I just met you at a party let’s go home now’. And i think just like communication and being like emotionally safe? I try to always be open with people who I’m having sex with, like ‘this is my emotional state today, these are things I would like to avoid’, just so, I think that sometimes when people think about safe sex they just think of it as a physical safety.

Surgeon: Totally. Yeah. That’s very well put.

Maggie McMuffin: Thanks.

Surgeon: Thank you. Yeah, I think that I’m very similar, I don’t, I really like latex gloves, I like to wear them all the time and I think they’re really fun and I think it’s really nice to be able to rip them off and then have clean hands, plus they’re sexy, so…

Maggie McMuffin: There’s something really… the snap that’s just like…

Surgeon: Yeah a little medical fetish I’ve got going on, yep, for sure, so like I really love using those all the time, I just feel like it just makes everything else easier, but otherwise yeah, all the normal stuff, but I think I am, I mean, yeah I’m a  less rigid set of rules, box, person, because it is really different with every person. And I think especially when you’re doing like kink play, what kind of sex are we talking about, because like that means different things.

Maggie McMuffin: Different sex requires different safety.

Surgeon: Yeah.

Surgeon: That was hot.

Maggie McMuffin: If you’ve done porn before, why are you continuing to do porn?

Surgeon: I keep doing porn – it’s funny, I’ll like get really into it for a while and then come away from it and sometimes maybe it’s been even a couple of years between shoots, and then something always pulls me in. I think it’s because of the visibility piece of I want queer sex in a world that’s authentic, and I know that I can bring that or that I’m comfortable doing that, so I feel like it’s almost a duty. I also just like love it, and I’ve been doing it – how long have I been shooting – I’ve probably been doing porn for fifteen years, maybe longer, and when I first started doing it, I didn’t know as well what my own character was on camera, and so I’d sort of like do shoots, and then I would be maybe not super thrilled with the results of it later, and just having that experience, doing it for this long, has given me a sense of what I loved to do on camera, and what I’m really happy with, and then so like finding you is great, because I wanted… I just know the energy that I like to have, and that feels really good to me, and I think I used to be a lot more like ‘let’s do some weird conceptual thing’, and I still like to do that sometimes, because I’m an artist, and I like to play with sex and imagery, but on the base level I’m just like ‘yeah, I love like kink and fucking, and great ways, and happy times’, and I like to see that on camera too. And also just like the art and the love of sex, I think, is big for me, so. How about you?

Maggie McMuffin: Porn was a gateway for me, for when I was younger, and afraid to sign up for porn because I didn’t think I was attractive enough. I was like ‘oh if I do porn, I can do all these fucked up fetish things that I wanna do’, because when you’re nineteen and asking people to choke you they’re like ‘ew’, but like on porn, you can do that! And it’s like Chris said about the scheduling thing, when sometimes where you have these big elaborate fantasies, you kind of need a reason to put that all together and porn does that. And it is an artistic thing, I really view porn – it’s in this weird area between like actually having sex with people and collaborating with other artists on performance space.

Surgeon: Yeah, you’re in the theatre, too.

Maggie McMuffin: Yeah, I’m in theatre, and it’s like very up close one-on-one immersive theatre, it’s what I think porn is like.

Surgeon: Yes, exactly, yeah. There’s this really interesting thing about I’m a performer, also, and like, you know, creating performances, but then also creating these performances that are unscripted, and spontaneous, and then really actually wanting to find that authentic spark in porn, that’s the magic, how do you create both of those things.

Maggie McMuffin: Where it’s not stilted, it’s still organic, but it has the trappings of theatricality and art, like we have sets, and we have a loose thing, but how do you also find the truth in that. And I feel like every time I do a new porn shoot I find a new truth about myself.

Surgeon: I think that’s what I like about kink in general. It can be a little like there’s so much structure to it, but then when you kind of create all these boundaries, to then like rip them away and just be this raw self.

Maggie McMuffin: I love it.

Surgeon: It’s nice.