SIOUXSIE: So yeah, this dress gets stuck just where that zipper meets the waist cuz the fabric…

POPPY: Yeah, I totally understand. But you can pull on it pretty hard.

SIOUXSIE: Yeah. There’s that, I’ll be careful not to dump the clothespins.

POPPY: My props, my props.

VOC: Every time like after doing *inaudible* with Maxine, we have like a million props. *inaudible*the next thing I do, I’m not going to use any props… it’s just going to be naked time. Not been able to do that.. like, I brought a Tupperware things.

VOC: Props are fun, but it’s glitter that’s dangerous.

VOC: That’s true, that’s true.

POPPY: Danger is just a way of life.

INTERVIEW

POPPY: How did you enjoy the shoot today?

SIOUXSIE: I loved it, it was really really fun to play with you and for you to be my dolly. I don’t get to like, be toppy that much in my life, being a collared submissive and all that. So it’s fun when I get to play and I really enjoy being super theatrical and like, using props and doing a silly concept. It was like fun, it’s cool and you can go with something ridiculous and still have it be super hot.

POPPY: Yeah, totally.

SIOUXSIE: What about you, what did you enjoy?

POPPY: I really liked being a doll, I’ve never been a doll before.

SIOUXSIE: Really?

POPPY: Yeah..

SIOUXSIE: Cool..

POPPY: But yeah, I mean it was definitely right there with all of my burlesque stuff, which is a lot. I guess my… like on stage I’m only just getting used to even using my voice in the past couple years because I’ve always been more of like a mime. So it was really easy to just get back into like..

SIOUXSIE: uh-huh, totally. That was cool… I liked how you slowly came to life and discovered your voice. It was very interesting.

SCENE

SIOUXSIE: You are so fun, you come with all the good parts. *gasp* what is this dolly?! Oh my goodness… you’re the deluxe model. Oh my goodness… your kook is made of sparkles! Yay.. I like that. Does that hurt? It doesn’t? I like that you laugh.

INTERVIEW

SIOUXSIE: What was challenging about the shoot for you?

POPPY: It was really hard not to giggle at first. I didn’t actually find it that challenging.

SIOUXSIE: I know, I was definitely in a space like, okay we’re definitely at the point where the porn scene should be over soon. But I was just like, yeah let’s do this. It could’ve gone for it much longer… so stopping was challenging. It was also, we had more ideas… I just had so many ideas that I wanted to do that some of which we didn’t get to, which is fine because it’s just like follow your desire and everything, so… I think… like I said, I don’t top very much so it was challenging to like, I’m still coming into my desire more of a top… and so sometimes I get too much in my head… I’m like, okay what’s coming next, what’s coming next. And also the porn director inside of me is like, what’s next, what’s next… get the next toy.

POPPY: Rather than just moving through it…

SIOUXSIE: Yeah, and being like, okay, what do you want to do to her? ..like do it. So it was fun, you were very responsive and fun to play with.

POPPY: ..you know…

SIOUXSIE: ..you know.

SCENE

SIOUXSIE: Okay, we have to put everything away… you can’t tell anyone because then they’ll take you back to the factory.

POPPY: I want to say with Siouxsie.

SIOUXSIE: Please stay.

POPPY: Will you brush my hair now?

SIOUXSIE: Yeah, I’d love to brush your hair.

VOC: Awesome.

SIOUXSIE: Filth. It was awesome, thank you.

VOC: So are you guys staying for lunch?

SIOUXSIE: Yeah, probably.

VOC: Cool, awesome. So we’ll get lunch ordered.

INTERVIEW

SIOUXSIE: So, Poppy, how long have you been doing porn?

POPPY: That’s really hard to say because I… like, I started doing porn when I started making my own porn.

SIOUXSIE: Right.

POPPY: So, it’s like done porn for myself for a while, but like, this is probably the first scene I’ve done that I’m not in creative control to some… because we were shooting for Trouble and that was really awesome but it was still like, we were all co-creating that rather than… so yeah. I remember when I decided I wanted to become a pornographer.

SIOUXSIE: When was that?

POPPY: When I was working at the Lusty Lady and I was… and I think that the most feminist thing I can do is make porn.

SIOUXSIE: Aww, why do you think that?

POPPY: Because I was like, I don’t know if there’s porn out there for me. And I love all the queer porn stuff, but actually as a person who mostly has straight sex and not even intensely kinky sex, I just felt like, I just want some nice, straight but interesting.. I don’t know… cinematic even?

SIOUXSIE: Totally. That’s amazing… I mean like, seemed for me I’ve been doing porn… well, I’ve been doing porn since like college with me and my first girlfriend, like made a hilarious, sell your sex tape. I like don’t… she regrets that a little bit…but I don’t, I’m like, yeah. She’s an accountant now, but that’s, you know, the way it is. And I continue to do porn because I’m just like… I find more and more things I like about it, like I majored in theater in college and whatever, and I’ve always been…

POPPY: Look at you using your theater major today.

SIOUXSIE: Exactly, and I’ve always been interested in sexuality, like my final project that I did senior year was like, about sex. And it has been like a natural progression, incorporating like music, and film, and storytelling, and fucking and like, you know, now that I’m like going to start making my own porn too, with all American whore, it’s like… it just keeps going, there’s still stuff I want to do… there’s new positions I want to try… haven’t done a gang bang yet. I mean there’s all kinds of things.

POPPY: Oh my god, I want to do a gang bang so bad.

SIOUXSIE: It can happen, I’ll make it happen. I got you. I think it was really really cool, and we’re actually about to go back to my place right now and have you on the podcast, this American whore, because… and we’re going to talk about body stuff, and like, size. And it was really really cool to be with a hot lady of similar body size because like… my partner calls us “middles”… which is, like that we’re too small for bbw porn and too big for mainstream porn, and so being here and doing this crazy, weird dolly scene with this like… it was super empowering, I think it’s really important to show all types of bodies, not just ones that fit into this particular fetish…. you know, it’s that same thing, porn for me… people who look like me.

POPPY: Yeah, people who look like me. And thank you Crash Pad so much for having people like us, and your big, wide range of people that you have, and they’re all so hot and it’s just so nice.

SIOUXSIE: It’s good to be here, love Crash Pad.

POPPY: Yes.

SIOUXSIE: Yay!

VOC: Awesome.

SIOUXSIE: Is that good?

VOC: Thank you.

SIOUXSIE: Awesome.

VOC: Sweet.