Tomie: How did you enjoy the shoot?

Leo: I enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun fucking you.

Tomie: Yeah, I think I can tell. I think I can tell. Yeah. Well, I enjoyed it.

Leo: Good.

Tomie: Obviously.

Leo: I’m glad.

Tomie: Yeah. I like getting fisted.

Leo: You’re really fun to fist.

Tomie: It’s something that I always wanted to do with you honestly.

Leo: Good, well I’m glad we got to do it today.

Tomie: Yeah.

Leo: What if anything about the shoot was challenging?

Tomie: Honestly, there’s not a lot about it that was challenging. Like it was just, it felt even though we kind of had a concept in mind going in, obviously we had a plan. I still like that it was really natural. You know, like we just had fun. And just went into it. If anything like maybe just being fisted physically is challenging. You know, just like by default, you know, it’s something you have to do – for me, like, you know, you have to do it kind of slow, etc… and so like, you know, we did have to take breaks and stuff and, you know, also because of like just water and me hitting my inhaler, which I’m sure is really sexy. You know, it’s like some baddies have asthma. Stuff like that. And stuff like that can be challenging on any shoot. But for this, it was like pretty, pretty unchallenging.
So yeah. Okay. Yeah. What about you?

Leo: Well. I mean, considering that the AC wasn’t blowing and I was fucking you pretty hard. It was pretty hot. I was getting sweaty. The only challenging thing was just, like, making sure I was keeping momentum and keeping track of all the things.

Tomie: Yeah, you were putting the work in. I felt like such a pillow princess. And I was loving it. And I was loving it.

Leo: I was loving it from my viewpoint, too.

Tomie: Yeah, honestly, it was really hot seeing you get all hot and sweaty and, like, working

Leo: Sweating all over you.

Tomie: It’s so fucking, it’s so hot to me. Like, I love that. But also I was like, Damn, are you okay?

Leo: It’s very okay. More than okay.
So, safer sex practices. What are your’s?

Tomie: I mean pretty standard stuff. I mean like making sure to get tested of course. But if you don’t, you know, have a test and you know, kind of like I guess doing some sort of like, harm reduction strategies, right? Like, you know, just having sex with no fluid exchange or, like, using barriers like condoms or dental dams like that. That’s always good. I know today, you were saying that there were some cuts on your hands, and so you wore gloves to fist me, like that’s a safer sex practice. Yeah.

Leo: – For sure, for sure.

Tomie: Also very hot. I love black gloves. So it worked out.

Yeah.

Leo: So why do you use those safer sex practices?

Tomie: I mean, just to make sure that, not only that I can stay healthy, but like, if I’m having sex with somebody, I don’t want to put them at risk either. And just generally, in the industry and in my personal life, that’s how I feel. So. Yeah.

Leo: Yeah. Likewise.

Tomie: It’s like, you know, it’s a courtesy thing, caring for others

Leo: – For sure. Yeah. Harm reduction is care.

Tomie: – Yes.

Leo: I feel the same way.

Tomie: And also, all the things that you said, of course. And communication? Key for me. And making sure that I trust whomever I’m engaging with. Because if there’s no trust, there’s no communication. I like to be very transparent in my play. Especially since I do play with multiple people, it’s very important for me to be mindful of not only in my health, but, you know, everybody that I play with as well.

Leo: Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, definitely.

Communication is a big part of that. Yeah.

Tomie: So why do you do porn and continue to do porn?

Leo: Well, I first started, doing porn as a femme drag porn performer, and I actually wanted to perform so that one day I could potentially be behind the camera and be more involved that way. And I wanted to put myself in the shoes of who I’d be filming. Theoretically. And then I transitioned. So I wanted to come back as my real gender. And, also recently a friend, Apollo Moon, passed and he was doing some amazing work. So I want to be able to, you know, carry the torch in his honor and, continue to blaze the way for trans mass non-binary folk as well.

Tomie: Yeah. No, that’s that’s real. That’s, like, really beautiful. I remember you talking to me about how you used to do porn, like, before you transitioned and stuff. I thought that was very cool. It’s cool that you get to have the opportunity to do it now, just as you’re just like, you know, more as yourself. Like, that’s really cool.

Leo: How about you? Why do you continue to do porn?

Tomie: I mean, it’s it’s fun and like, sometimes it’s not, you know, because it’s like work and it depends. This, for example is more fun for me and that’s why I do it. And then there’s, you know I’ve done some like mainstream shoots where it was like mostly just work and so I don’t know, I think that in general it is a, a career that fits me better than a lot of other career that I have tried. I think that it gives me flexibility and it lets me explore my sexuality in ways I don’t usually. I feel like normally maybe I wouldn’t get to, you know. And I also meet really cool people. So far in the industry, I have met some really amazing women and really amazing queer people and again, like I think that that’s kind of rare. Like, not every industry or career field might be like that, you know? Yeah. So I keep doing it.

Leo: So if you could be any sex toy, what would you be?

Tomie: That’s a hard one. This is. Now we’re asking the real questions. I feel like I would say a Hitachi Magic Wand. I know, I’m sorry. I took the good one. I was specifically the one that plugs into the wall. Because…

Leo: It doesn’t lose its charge!

Tomie: It never dies, yeah. It never dies. It’s like heavy duty. I… you know. Yeah. I’ve had my for so long and it’s never, it’s never failed me. So I would like to be a Hitachi. I would like to be.

Leo: Tell me how you manage that. Because I’ve been through so many at this point.

Tomie: – Really?

Leo: Yeah. Yeah, I think I just work them too hard.

Tomie: What are you doing to them?

Leo: I don’t know, I get pretty hardcore with the Hitachi. They can’t handle how much I put on it apparently.

Tomie: I want to be reliable and sturdy like a Hitachi. Yes. Yeah.

Leo: Okay, well, that was going to be mine, so…
Tomie: – They get the job done.

Leo: I guess I won’t go for the plug in. I’ll go for the rechargeable. But, like, the “plus” one or whatever one has, like, the most like “OOMF” to it.

Tomie: Okay, got you. Okay. Yeah. More portable.

Leo: Yeah. Kind of. Yeah.

Tomie: You’re more “on the go” maybe.

Leo: But yeah, that, with the fist. Yeah. I think that would if I could like have a combo that would be with me.

Tomie: I see it.
Tomie: I’m really glad I got to do this with you! Yeah, I know we’ve been wanting to for
so long. I know, and then life…

Leo: Yeah, life happened.

Tomie: Life happened.

Leo> Yeah. This was hot. This was very fun. Thank you. Thank you.

Tomie: Yeah. This was really hot. This was honestly one of my favorite shoots I’ve done in a long time.

Leo: Oh, good. I’m glad!