(Crosstalk. Shine Louise Houston: Thank you….So we’ll start with you guys…You’ve pretty much (inaudible) You’ve been here before, you have the key. And cameras are rolling, and action.)

SHAWN: I had this, like, strange fear, like, I’m super relaxed, getting a massage, and like, wouldn’t it be really fucked up if she brought the cattle prod and then all of a sudden (inaudible) (laughter). I’m sorry! I got you! Ha ha!

SHAWN: I’m really glad we got to shoot today.

DONNA: Me too. It was fun, yeah.

SHAWN: So, how…did you have any expectations, I guess?

DONNA: Noooo, I mean, I knew that we were going be doing the aftercare massage and I was a little bit nervous because I’m not used to, you know, being sweet, in porn, but, you know it was very fun, and getting a massage was great (laughter from both DONNA and SHAWN). Definitely puts you in the mood, yeah.

SHAWN: So, I should probably explain why…what aftercare’s like, ‘cause I think a lot of people are going to see that we’re…our scene’s going up and they’re like “oh, it’s going to be crazy.” But we actually shot a week-and-a-half ago, and I subbed for the first time for WiredPussy and had a wonderful time and got electrocuted, gang-banged, and beat the fuck out of me for a very…it was wonderful, and I thought it would be a really great segue to doing a crash pad scene, like the idea that we just came from that scenario, came here, and then doing kinda the sweet tea-drinking aftercare after an intense scene.

DONNA: I liked it. You’re going to make me soft now. (laughter from both DONNA and SHAWN). “I’ll tie you up and then…massage you a little bit. Best idea ever.”

SHAWN: You’re like “I’m going to incorporate massage into all my scenes from now on.”

DONNA: So the first part we’re going to do today is to give you a massage (laughter from DONNA and SHAWN).

[camera snapping in background as SHAWN massages DONNA]

SHAWN: It was a lot hotter than it really should be in January so that huge stain on the sheets was all sweat.

DONNA: I know. That was very fun being so slippery. I liked that. It was like fucking in a giant puddle of lube. I liked rubbing your bruises too. That was fun.

SHAWN: Yeah. The added…the bite was kind of a nice added, like, sweetener like “remember that? I remember that.” Oh that was fun.

(laughter, crosstalk)

SHAWN: Well, obviously, that’s not sweat.

DONNA: Well, no, but…

SHAWN: This, this…sweat! What is it?

DONNA: Probably like 90 degrees in here.

SHAWN: And it’s January, in San Francisco. It’s like…upside of global warming here. Beautiful weather.

(inaudible, crosstalk)

DONNA: Yeah, I definitely revert to a more aggressive mode and it’s really hard, being on camera, not to be like (inaudible) attacking people, so I think it is like a challenge as a performer to see what your gradient of performance can be and how you can portray different aspects of sexuality and different like tones of intimacy and I think that like…it is challenging, but it is also a really fun thing to do.

SHAWN: I agree wholeheartedly.

(crosstalk, inaudible. Camera snapping in background)

SHAWN: Was there anything particularly challenging about today?

DONNA: Ummm…mostly just the fact that I got my period this morning. Was very frustrating ‘cause I’ve never used an instead before, and ummm I felt like it was going to spray blood all over (laughter from SHAWN and DONNA). Umm…so I…I…I wish that I could have done some penetration. That was hard to resist, because you know I’m like “well, maybe it’ll be OK, and then it’s like oh, be embarrassing if it’s not.” (laughter from SHAWN and DONNA) I always am nervous before I do every scene actually, and then as soon as the cameras start rolling, I relax.

SHAWN: Yeah

DONNA: And the massage helped.

SHAWN: I actually think, in a strange way that like, not being able to do a lot of penetration was helpful to keep it a little less, like, frenetic and aggressive, cause sometimes I’m just like “yeah! Let’s get it!” I’m like, so we have to take it slower, we have to, like, be mindful of these other things and I think that
might have set the tone a little more, even though, it’s like…usually I want what I can’t have, so I’m like “so maybe just one finger…” and I was like no no, I don’t want you to get, like, worried about it, so I’m like “we can do it later.”

DONNA: Yeah, well I wasn’t worried by that point (laughter from SHAWN and DONNA). It was very fun just to ummm… be naked and like feel you moving like around me and that’s something I don’t get to experience on camera very often. So, it was definitely new for me and it was very rewarding.

(inaudible, moaning, camera snapping)

SHAWN: Yeah, I thought it would be nice to work together in a different context, because I knew that I’d be working for Wired after talking to you, and, again, I like, as a performer, to increase the breadth of my, like abilities, and I’ve actually had one performance in the past where I worked for a company and
they wanted me to do something softer and I realized I had a really hard time doing that. Like you want me to make out for 15 minutes? I can try to do that, but I just try to rip clothes off and fuck, and like, I’m like, ok, I do, I do like the love-makey, I’m like really into it, and I’m super in to all this shit – the candles, the tea, and all this shit’s mine, like I’m a bit of a…I’m a slutty romantic, and I like that I can bring that here as well as I can like be Syd, or I can be Shawn, who I think is getting typecast as an asshole. If you watch CHAMPION, you might think I’m a bit of an asshole. Only half-asshole. But I like the idea of doing something, especially us as our kind of…more ongoing personalities, and seeing what else we can do with that.

DONNA: Me too. (Laughter from SHAWN and DONNA)

SHAWN: I like giving massages, I like eating pussy. It’s a Saturday, why not?

DONNA: Well, it’s just fun for me to do something different. It’s always…umm…the idea of it is always challenging for me because I’m so used to being in control of everything that happens, and when I’m performing I’m also directing myself, so I know exactly what I want myself to do, when I want it to stop, like, what, you know, I mean, basically it’s a one-woman show. Um, so I’m always worried that I’ll come and work with someone else and I won’t be doing what they want or I won’t, you know, I don’t know, but you guys pretty much let us do whatever, which is even more nerve-wracking. (laughter from SHAWN and DONNA). Um, but I like the challenge, and I like being in overtly queer porn and having, ummm, you know, having a femme, being a femme presence in a queer porn company, and…

SHAWN: No, I was definitely impressed when I was on set with you and you do, you like, you just have everything on lockdown, and I’m like, and also, you’re on camera at the same time, and you’re like setting your rigging, you’re setting up the light situation, and I’m like damn, like you got it all figured out. So yeah, it’s interesting to see you outside of the context where you don’t have to do that…I don’t know if it is freeing or if it is nerve-wracking. It sounds like it is nerve-wracking.

DONNA: Well, it’s both. It’s a little bit of both. I mean, I think the more I do it, the more I’ll relax into it, and this time I was nervous about it beforehand but I wasn’t thinking about it at all during the scene.

(camera snapping. Shine Louise Houston: And cameras are rolling, and action)

(DONNA moaning, camera snapping)

(inaudible crosstalk)

(laughter)

SHAWN: Ummm, Shawn’s going to do a monologue now, (clears throat) (laughter from SHAWN and DONNA). So, last words. Well, this week’s been really wonderful. Um, I went to the Adult Video News Awards, which is very mainstream, kind of Oscars of porn. I did meet a good handful of really wonderful people, but what I took away from the experience is I just got so fucking excited about Pink and White because they are doing pretty much, like, there’s nothing else, like really out there, like what Pink and White’s doing, and I just wanted to work all week. I’m like “oh, I can’t wait to just do more PR, tell people more about what Pink and White’s about, you know push the website” because it’s just…to work with so many phenomenal passionate people that are here because they believe in what we’re doing and they are like, doing it not because, like because they wanna get rich quick, but because they actually believe in the product and believe in what it stands for, is been so, like, so invigorating. Buy queer porn!

(crosstalk, applause)

SHAWN: Queer porn for president!