Bear and Tree discuss adjusting to sex in a new space after being limited to home so long, safer sex in the context of quarantine, and the pleasure of exhibitionism.

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INTRO MUSIC

Shine: Go ahead and start rolling.
Quick clap?

TCrane: Got it?
CLAP

Shine: Thank you!

Bear: “Clap”

Bear: How did you enjoy the shoot today?

Tree: I had a good time, yeah. I felt pretty comfortable right from the beginning, that was really nice. It’s a cozy bed and everything.

Bear: Yeah.

Tree: I mean, it felt like we did things kind of how we normally do at home and like, when we like, asked if we were into it or if we wanted to do something else we decided to move towards coming together, which was really fun. I’m glad we got to, that that happened.

Bear: Yeah

Tree: That we both got there.

Bear: Yeah

Tree: How about you?

Bear: Yeah, it was really – it was really cool. I like the decor a lot.

Tree: yeah

Bear: cause it’s just filled with kinda silly but like, homely. It felt like, I was like fucking in like, my aunt’s lake house or some shit like that, that she hasn’t redecorated in a long time. But it was PERFECT though, like that, don’t ever change it. Like, that’s the vibe. It’s a good vibe.

And like, yeah, I don’t know. Seems like, and then a popular song, 80’s style song plays in the background after we finish. It was great. This is what was happening in my head. Yeah, it was really fun. It was – I enjoyed that it didn’t feel super pressuring and that it also didn’t feel like anybody but us was really involved in it.

I was surprised at how quickly anybody else in the room disappeared cause, but, the vibe. The vibe really helped with that for me like a lot cause you know how I am, I have to be really comfortable to do the things. I’m also kinda proud that we were able to do the things on the camera. Anyway, so yeah.

Cut to episode clip

Tree: You wanna watch me fist myself?

Bear: Yes. Yes

Tree: Okay

Bear: Definitely

(whispers)

Back to Discussion

Tree: So what was challenging about the shoot?

Bear: You asked me first, okay. Um… challenging….Temperatures are always tricky. I think that’s the only thing I can come up with. It was like bright light, sweaty forehead, you know? That was really it. But then I had to realize, Oh, you can like, get up and move if you wanna move….There was like that part of you that was like “stay on the bed” — and it was like no, you don’t have to, and that’s why I stood up. But when I stood up I actually cooled down, I was like, ah that’s better.

I think that was, yeah… ..just… just that. But I feel like that’s – you’re naked. You’re either gonna be too hot or too cold, I don’t know if there’s really an in-between there. What about you? How do you feel about… do you feel like there was there anything challenging, if anything?

Tree: I had a little bit of a moment of like, which kind of… like… should I be…

Bear: Doing?

Tree: Or like, not so much doing but like, Should I say things? How loud should I be?

Bear: Yeah, I had that. My brain told me like “Shhh don’t say nothing.” Like the whole time, my brain was “Sssh.. don’t say. No. Don’t. Don’t say nothing. It’s just gonna sound cheesy.”

Both: Yeah

Tree: I mean, I think that’s fine though, cause we aren’t usually — we’ll usually, like, we’ll check in and stuff, but don’t do a whole lot of talking either at home, so…

Bear: Yeah that’s true.

Tree: We’re kinda really comfortable with each other

Both: Yeah

Cut to sex

(whispers)

Bear: What are our safer sex practices and why?

Tree: Well, we don’t use condoms with each other, but that’s cause we’re primary partners and we use protection with everyone else that we have sex with.

Bear: Yeah

Tree: We have things that we do pretty regularly that like we don’t really need to talk about before because we do them all the time. But then if we want to do anything else we’ll usually discuss it, yeah

Bear: Yeah, definitely.

Tree: Or if there’s – we have another partner that we kind of do stuff with pretty regularly. And we’ll usually talk about that before we do it.

Both: Yeah

Bear: Just about, Keeping it open. but also not, I try not to like — I can say this for me, but I think this is true for you too…We’re trying not to make things too… Serious? You know? That’s another thing I liked about today. It didn’t feel overly serious.

Tree: Or businessy

Bear: Yeah, or overly businessy kinda vibe, I don’t know. Yeah. Cause we were just like, laughing and stuff beforehand. And taking too much time laughing

(laughs)

With everybody on set, so that was cool. It made it – it helped a lot. It was like, phew, okay! There goes the nerves, cause there was a lot of nerves coming across the bridge

(laughs)

In the car like (deep breaths)

But it went fine

Cut to scene:

(Tree moans and both climax)

Back to discussion

Tree: Another one of the questions is whether we’ve done porn before. This is my first time.

Bear: This is – this is my first, well – I (stammers) … Like many a trans girl, I did camming when I first, like… started transitioning… for the mulah

I don’t know, it’s funny cause like, it’s always tricky cause I feel like… As a Black trans woman, I’ve experienced very interesting things. I’ll say that. But then there are also aspects of it where I just wish it could all be like this was today but you know, anyway. Um…

There were aspects of it I really enjoyed though like, the camming part, cause the people aren’t there with you, you know? So you can like… As long as everybody’s cool, It’s like, really fun. If people aren’t cool then you can kinda like… they don’t have to be there, you know? You can just click a window.

I liked that there was a wireless stream [CrashPad’s ‘Voyeur Cam’] but we didn’t have to interact with the people. That was really cool. I really wish that could be the way it was all the time. But yeah. This was great. I enjoyed it a lot.

I feel like every person I’ve ever heard rarely says that their experience was like how THIS was today. So…

Cut to sex scene

Bear: My knee? For real?

Tree: I kinda put it there.

Bear: OKAY I was like How?!

Back to Discussion

Tree: I was curious about trying out – doing porn but I didn’t rush into it or seek it out that hard but I’m glad that this was my first experience with it. Yeah

Bear: Yeah, same

(Shine Louise Houston, off camera): Awesome

Bear: Um, I think really conscious porn like this is hot and possible. And I definitely didn’t always think that. It was always like, I don’t know about this… This was very… When I started to hear more about CrashPad and all of this, I was like, Oh! I remember we met one of the associates from here, and she was telling us about like, how cool it is and we weren’t even in the building for THAT the first time we came here and it was, this was a whole different vibe than I expected in a lot of ways – in a good way though! So it was just like, this is, I don’t know. This is cool. I would do this again. Yeah, I would definitely do this again.

Bear: How about you? Anything else?

Tree: No