Crew Member off Screen: Yeah, light the cigarette
(Lighter flicks)

Sadie Lune: Whose, Can you close the door? Thanks.
Can you go like this a couple of times before you close the door?
Off Screen Crew Member: Yeah, Thank you
(Laughs)
(Inaudible)
SL: Zit right on the tip of my nose
TT: It’s tiny
SL: Especially for today (laughs and mimics a zit voice “I wanna be on video”)
TT: It’s super tiny
OSCM: Where? No one is ever gonna see that
SL: Except for the zit fetishist like me, who will be like uuhh…
OSCM: Zooming in
SL: Uh huh click click click click
OSCM: And leaning in forward cause (inaudible dialogue with other off screen crew member)

TT: Well that’s working to your advantage
SL: I guess so, Okay

SL: You had a hair stuck to your thigh, and I was all whatever fucking,  fucking and then I was like wait video and (makes sound effect)
TT: Thanks (laughter)
SL: It took me a while to go through that whole process so
TT: Cause of the TP incident?

(OSCM:  are you recording?)

SL: My TP incident? I know like, oh fuck, I was really I had to check before we started just for myself.

OSCM: Will one of you give us a clap, just like in the middle

(Claps)

OSCM: That works, I got it. Yeah I got it
TT: What did I like about the shoot?
SL: What did you like about the shoot?
TT: Doin’ it with my friend Sadie.
(Laughter)
SL: Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
TT: Uhm. I really like cause we’ve played together before and I really like the dynamic we have when you top me cause we’re really good friends and you um, you pretty much know my limits and what I like and you also um give me the like bossing around femme kinda vibe that I don’t, that I don’t get from other people that I play with, and I really love it from you.

(Smacking sound)
TT: aah.
SL:  You listen to me now
TT: It’s none of your fucking business
SL: Oh yeah?
(Smack) (TT moans)
SL: Don’t talk back to me, do you understand me?
TT: (moan) What the fuck are you doing?
SL: You just need a little bit. A little bit of sternness? So you can hear things? A little sharpness in my voice?
(TT moans)
SL: So you can know that I’m serious?
TT: Yes, yes.
SL: Good girl.
(moans) (smacking sounds and moans)
(Inaudible) so if it’s.

TT: You know just where to smack me (laughs) and um your um, a fabulous lover.
SL: Awww.
TT: And super-duper hot.
SL: Thanks.
TT: And I love working with you.
SL: Thanks, aww me too.
(laughs)

SL: what was challenging for you?
TT: uh, staying in character a little bit cause I was like when do I stop being smart ass and I was like Oh, I kind of like being a smart ass cause I get smacked around a little bit more
(laughs)
And I was like oh I guess I can I’ll behave after a while cause I like to please you
SL: mm, that’s nice
(laughs)
SL: I liked um lots of things, I like using a really sharp knife next to you and tearing off, ripping all your clothes off, like cutting all your clothes off that was really super fun and hot
I like that I feel like I can uhm  be pretty like tough and keep hitting you if I feel like I wanna keep hitting you and spit in your face  if I feel like I wanna spit in your face and things like that that makes me that makes me happy
And I really like when I say come for me and then you’re like Okay, and you get all determined and you do it and that’s my favorite and I was like I’m gonna keep doing that and then you kept doing it and that would make me really happy

SL: Oh, good girl, come for me yeah.
(Screaming and groaning)
Tell me you’re gonna come for me.
TT: I’m gonna come for you.
(Smack)
(Moans and screams)
SL: Ooh, good girl.
Yeah. Yeah? You okay?
TT: yeah.
SL: More?
TT: Yeah.
SL: More?
TT: Yeah.
SL: More? You want more?
TT: I want more.
SL: I wanna hear you say it.
TT: I want more I want more I want more (yells) fuck
(screams and moans) (laughs) (inaudible)

SL: And um, Yeah, You were really hot.
TT: So are you
SL: Super-hot to fuck I really, that was awesome.
TT: Heehe.
SL: Um yeah the character, role plays often times are like there comes to a point well if there’s actual like a lot of fucking in it there comes to a point where it’s just like (sound effect of going downhill) and you’re like ok now were concentrating on other things ya know. So yeah there is a little bit um of that and also I think I don’t it might have been the first shoot that I’ve done with so many people or at least so many people in like a small room like the videographers and things like that and so I forgot pretty quickly but there was just a couple of moments where I would be like (grunting noises) oh right!
(laughter)
SL: And that’s always just like a little like takes you out for a second and um and I think also just kind of um at the beginning like finding the like energy like especially when there’s a lot of people in the room and like it’s on (begins to say film)  for whatever reason moving video is more,  more difficult for me than stills in terms of like feeling like I can like focus energy and whatever and um and so just kind of getting feeling really set with that the beginning part but then it got really easy once that took off
TT:  Yeah yeah.

SL:  So can I ask you a question? No clamps?
TT: Um, Probably not clamps on my nipples.
SL: But maybe like on the sides?
TT: Yeah yeah around
SL: This is like, not hot. (laughs)
SL: Is that okay? Did I just ruin continuity?

Off Screen Crew member: Take it from wherever you guys left off and decide, like I need more room or whatever you can think of.
SL: Watch the knife, or not.
(laughter)  (Inaudible dialogue to TT)

TT: What are you gonna do?
SL: hmmm, I don’t know what you want me to do
Hmm? You do, do you even know?
TT: I don’t know
SL: Well, we’ll find out then, we’ll just find out

TT: I didn’t have a whole lot of expectations cause um ‘cause you called me like last night
(laughs)
SL:  little switcheroo
TT: You wanna do this shoot? And I’m like sure cause it’s with you and that’s always fun and like um, I wanted to wear my boots and I wanted to be kind of silly and like rawr rawr and like you know um and I like that there weren’t a lot of cause there were a lot of toys at the beginning that I was like what’s gonna happen with all those? And then there was a lot of the energy took us to a place of just like smacking and like fucking and like rawr.  And you know, I’m all about fallin’ in the energy.

SL: yeah, I feel like it was pretty last minute so I didn’t have a lot of in terms of like knowing that we were gonna be working together so I didn’t have a lot of expectations either I just wanted it to be hot
Yeah and at the beginning I was like ooh, is this gonna be hot? (moping noises) And at the end I was like that was fucking hot!

(deep breathing and sighing)
Off Screen Crew Member: Thank you. That was amazing.
SL: yeah?
(TT laughs)
OSCM: yeah, that was awesome.
SL: Are we done?
OSCM: Oh yeah, yeah I mean there’s the post sex interview unless like I mean that’s already, my god that’s already an hour
SL: Wow!
(inaudible dialogue)
(laughs)

TT: I’ve done porn here and there different kinds mostly either solo or with friends um and um I like getting paid to do sexy things it’s what it comes down to I like being paid to be naughty and like be kind of like um hehe look what I get to do (laughs) and um (clears throat) just the opportunity to like perform and get sexy time out there get just like (sighs) my brain is kind of also not working
(laughs together)
SL: It’s okay
TT: I’m like it’s fun, paid, doin’ it with friends
(laughs)
TT: It’s great.
SL: Good job.
TT: Thanks.
SL: Um, I decided to porn because I’m an exhibitionist and
TT: yeah me too
SL: also it’s hot for me to get paid for exhibitionism in and of itself and also um I think that there is  a lot of really bad porn out there and while I am conceptually pro porn in uh practice, there’s not much porn that I actually super um like not much of it turns me on or ya know,  or kind of like I know this is really heady but kind of  represents the values that I want to see around sex and sexuality and safer sex and all sorts of things
So I like doing it cause then I get to like call that shot and I like thinking at least that I’m  part of uh a kind of like a porn movement that in a different direction . I want there to be more good porn if it’s me being the good porn so much the better
TT: Yeah totally
SL: And I really like this company’s product so uh I wanted to be part of it

TT: Yeah same here I like the safer sex and fun sex and everybody’s actually getting off and it’s like you know educational and breaks down stigmas about all kinds of different things and um you know “alternative porn” aka “good porn” as far as I’m concerned. (laughs)
SL: And hot for people, like people are into it. I was into it anyway.
TT: Yep, me too (laughs)

SL:  So why do you like BDSM, or BDSM in porn or doing BDSM with sex or why are you kinky? Why?
TT: Oh my god
SL: Just pick one, please talk about your perviness.
TT: Alright, why do I love BDSM? Um, I’m its BDSM is part of my spirituality it’s very much a part of like um putting myself in a situation with someone I trust or being someone who puts someone through a situation that challenges them as a person challenges them physically,  emotionally, um mentally and um you go through this experience someone in a safe environment but at the same time your adrenaline is pumping and you experience fear on a certain level um even though like a bottom is in control of the situation um even though the bottom appears to not be in control of the there’s always the safe word and you can switch directions or whatever and um you come out of that experience a stronger person like stronger will your souls stronger, your hearts stronger, your body’s stronger and I think it’s very umm its often it’s a big misconception, big misconception that its abusive I mean there are people in every community who are stupid and like do things that are harmful but um, BDSM is about consensuality and its about going through experiences with people and growing and um it’s not a contest on any level there are all different kinds there are all different levels of um sadism and masochism and domination, submissive, there’s it’s just like the gender or sexuality um
SL: Spectrum?
TT: Spectrum. It’s like you know. It’s just there are people all over like masochists sadists like um and to bring it into porn in a positive way like even just like and like role play and some smacking and stuff like that I think it’s to convey that it’s like fun and you know educational
(laughs)
TT: that’s a brief nutshell
(scratching and slapping noises combine with moans and yells)
SL: Take a deep breath.  Good girl
(groaning and laughing)
SL: Yeah um I also feel that BDSM is spiritual for me but on a totally different level it’s just viscerally kind of um where my body and emotions really want to be a lot  of the time when I’m having a connection I like that intensity. I like, like it kinda gets me into my um, it’s interesting it’s like this interplay between like my like my animal body of like I want to literally have claws and like shred you as and that’s hot for me and like I wanna you know like, if I could I would like tear big chunks out of your flesh with my teeth and I think that (laughing) that’s like an animal body thing, and then that juxtaposed or um you know interplaying with like these intellectual calculations of like Okay what were the boundaries, like what can she handle at this point, like you know things like that, or what can I handle um you know like how to maneuver this. So there’s this like I don’t know it kind of just hits me on both plains to play that way where I get really like you know like here’s a knife, and like part of me want to just (guttural noise) and then like fuck you, and the other part of me is like reigning it in and being like okay it’s on the bed right there, don’t forget that it’s on the bed right there
TT: Yeah
SL: even while you’re paying a lot of attention here. And that, I guess it keeps me properly engaged and occupied and like really present because it gives me enough to think about and as well as enough to feel that I feel like I’m really like having pure moments of life and intensity and a connection with people.
TT: Mmhmm
SL: Like you are really specifically good at like triggering my power tripping buttons or like even if we’re not doing something that’s like super, super hardcore, I feel like I can totally like power trip safely and you’re loving it and like it’s like really fun and then I’m like OK that’s super- hot so then I’ll do this and whatever and whatever. And I also really like, you know, like you bottoming to me but like you getting fucked, and like me making you come a bunch of times is like really fun because it’s like you know like, here I smack you around scary scary whatever but like in the end it’s all to like give you crazy orgasms and
TT: mmhmm
SL: ‘Cause that’s fun for me, and I don’t know I just like to get into things like get my body in it get my teeth in it, and um yeah it’s like just some visceral feeling of wanting to like crawl into peoples body.
TT: Yeah
SL: So like BDSM really helps me with that. And it’s really fun to watch like the whole range of emotions like fear, and tentativeness, and um apprehension and like humor and um questioning and all sorts of things like play across somebody else face when you know that like I don’t know it turns me on.
TT: Mmmhmm. Yeah, I also really like the connection between two people when um or two or more, however many people are playing in a scene, um that’s what attracts me sensually is vulnerability.  Like being vulnerable to someone and or having that person being vulnerable to me is a very deep um intimate connection that I really, really love that and I really am appreciative of people who trust me enough to bottom for me and allow me to put them in that place and also people who can put me in that place and also make me feel safe and um.

SL: Yeah, you totally said it.  Vulnerability is like the hottest thing to me.
TT: mmhmm.
SL: Yeah, good point.
(laughs)
OSCM: Alright, thanks guys.
TT:  Yeah thank you.
OSCM: That was really good.