Transcription by: Alexis Zmoke

[Black screen with message: “All performers were 18 years of age or older at time of the productions dating from May 12th 2007 (5/12/07) to the present date. All documentation per 18 USC 2257 is maintained by the custodian of records L. Houston, 2525 16th st 4th flr, San Francisco Ca, 94103. Not to be viewed by minors.”]

/Screen with a shadowed figure in front of it. Showing:

Ian and Brett come into an apartment.

Brett: Man, what a long day at work. ____ /

/Director’s hands working at keyboard and mouse/

Brett and Ian kissing. Brett taking off his, then Ian’s, jackets.

/ Hand with computer mouse moving . Director eye with computer in background. Computer screen
shows Brett giving Ian a handjob, and flashes to Brett’s blushing, smiling face while he’s now lying on his back./

/We see Ian on his back, naked; Brett is lying beside him in a binder and hanging out, cuddling.

SLH: That was great, that was really great. *Ian laughs* So thanks, this is also, kind of like, popping my porn cherry ’cause that’s like my first biocock.

Ian: Yeah, I know.

*laughter*/

/Behind the Scenes Interview. Brett and Ian are dressed; Ian is wearing a locked chain-mail collar, which we also see in the sex scene flashbacks.

Ian: So Brett, what did you like today about the shoot?

Brett: What didn’t I like about the shoot? Um, I liked everything, but, ah, especially the chance to, to get to be on top for a while *Ian laughs* ‘cause that’s – that’s a little out of the ordinary for me, but I really, really enjoy it and I had a lot of fun topping with you.

Ian: I’ve seen you top others, but yah topping me that is unusual.

Brett: So, what did you like?

Ian: Um, yah. I enjoy that too. Um, and… And – just being an exhibitionist, it’s just fun to get a chance to do it.

Brett: Yeah, absolutely. Cameras are a whole other element and that was a lot of fun.

Ian: Um… did you have any challenges?

Brett: Uh, the heat. It’s definitely very, very warm. So, yanno, having the… the extra hanky nearby is always *Ian giggles* really helpful./

/Shot of Brett sitting down, wiping his face off with a handkerchief. Ian naked, approaching Brett with his cock. Cuts to shot of Ian on his back as Brett is leaning into him and again wiping his face. Then we see Ian sitting on top of Brett, continuing to jack off his cock. *Heavy breathing, sounds of camera snapshots.*/

/Behind the Scenes Interview:

Brett: I like that, so…

Ian: Yah

Brett: Um yah yanno angle wise this was a nice height of bed so it was really fun to – to get you on your knees, on your back. It was a little bit more challenging, but – but very, very fun./

/Ian on his back, legs bent towards himself, naked except for red socks, hot leather boots, glasses, and a locked chain-mail collar. His ass is on the edge of the bed. Brett has a binder and boxers on; a watch, and either boots or shoes – hard to tell as they’re not really in the shot. He slips some lube on his dick and rests it against Ian’s asshole while Ian masturbates his own dick.

Ian: Can I get some lube for my dick?

Brett: Yah.

Brett reaches for the lube bottle and pumps some directly on Ian’s cock. *Camera snapshot sounds*

Ian: *moan* Thanks.

Brett: Ugh-uh. Can you back up a little bit?

Brett pushes Ian’s thighs back, helping Ian to back onto the bed a bit.

Brett: Yeah. *Camera snapping sounds resume*

Ian’s boots rest on Brett’s shoulders as Brett slowly puts his cock inside Ian. Ian continues jacking off his own dick a bit.

Ian: Ugh, that’s good.

Brett rests his hand on Ian’s chest.

Ian: Oh, yeah.

Brett moves his hand to grab Ian’s shoulder, pushing in further inside.

*Ian grunts*

Brett: That’s right./

/Behind the Scenes Interview:

Ian: Yeah, I like – I like the look of being on my back ‘cause then I, like, perfectly had you framed at least for me. So yeah…

Brett: I liked to be able to lean down and kiss you every now and then, too.

Ian: Yeah. Um, so for me the challenge, um, ugh… being… basically being overstimulated. It’s like, it’s just too… yeah the heat, but then just – too hot an experience. It’s like… Oh my god, *raises his voice* oh my goooood! *Brett and Ian chuckle* Focus!

Brett: I like that we have a – a sense of humor about us as well

Ian: Yah!

Brett: That we can have smiles and – and giggles and all kinds of fun stuff. It’s not just like *switches to a computerized or very fast, mechanical voice* “Here we are, two faggots fucking on camera.”

Ian: *funny robot voice* “We must fuck now.”

Brett: Right. So I’ve always appreciated that about you., it’s just your humor and this… fluidity. *Ian giggles* /

/Ian and Brett just inside the apartment, still dressed.

Brett: Hello babe.

Both jokingly chest- punching and grunting at each other, interspersed with kisses./

/Brett is topping Ian in rhythmic motions, Ian on his back. *camera snapshot sounds* *Brett grunting*, we see a close-up of his face as he cums. *Ian and Brett both grunt and chuckle*

Ian: That one sneak up on you?

B: Yeah, sure did. You wanna get up and ride my cock?

Ian: Sure let’s try that.

Brett: ___ back out.

Brett pulls back slowly to get his cock out of Ian./

/Behind the Scenes Interview:

Ian: Who would have thought? *giggles*

Brett: Aah, this is coming up on two years. Dyke march is our anniversary. Cruised Ian on myspace, of all places *laughs*.

Ian: It’s where the best people meet.

Brett: This is true. I was walking down the hill for a beer, and you were walking up the hill for a sandwich, as I recall.

Ian: Looking for food, yeah. Cause there’s never enough food at the dyke march.

Brett: Right. Um, so.. yeah.

Ian: Um, and then it was…Like every, every weekend after that nearly for a year you were down here visiting. So. But it took… It took ah… almost a year? Or like 9 months before we, like, definitely confirmed we were boyfriends.

Brett: As I recall, it was, ah, Folsom Street Fair.

Ian: Oh, so it was that fast!

Brett: It was – no, it was on the bus on the way home from Folsom Street Fair.

Ian: *giggles* Oh, okay. ___ bad.

Brett: No, it was really sweet. I remember you leaned over and said “you wanna be boyfriends?” and I
was like ugh-uh

Brett shakes his head up and down enthusiastically. *Ian laughs*.

Brett: yeah… yeah, very sweet. And I like that we tend to celebrate our anniversaries by *Ian laughs* ugh – procuring a biscuit.

Ian: yeah…

Brett: as – as we like to refer to them, um…

Ian shakes his head.

Ian: No we don’t.

B: Well. No?

Ian: No.

Brett: We don’t? We don’t? Okay.

*Ian laughs*

Ian: Um, yanno… but yeah, like on our anniversaries we tend to, like, have some sort of threesome or somethin’…

Brett:Yah, I… I love the poly element and just, being able to be above board and everybody knows what’s up. There’s great trust there.

Ian: Yup. And then you weren’t in our, in the Trannywood’s first film but you were able to be in Couchsurfers and Couchsurfers 2..? Di-?

Brett: I believe I’m in some of the footage for Couchsurfers 2.

Ian: Yeah, okay.

Brett: I think there was the – ugh, gunna be a wrestling scene coming up.

Ian: Yeah, or that might be in Trannywood Gone Wild. But yes. In a couple of the series.

B: Right. Yes. Soomewhere in the series. But yeah, doing Couchsurfers 1 was an absolute blast. I had so much fun. I had no idea that I would like it. Just thought okay, I’m gunna give it a shot. And as it turns out I really like to fuck on camera, so… *Ian chuckles*

Ian: And… and you got the rave reviews!

B: Well, a few here and there. *laughter* But, you got some hot reviews too!

Ian: Yeah… Not complaining.

Brett: I’m looking forward to – to doing more work, and…

Ian: And excited to do CrashPadSeries. Woohoo!

Brett: Absolutely. Um, yeah. So as I understand it we are the first, ugh, bio guy slash trans guy couple to be with this company. So it’s fun to – to get to pop that cherry.

/Quick sex shot, moaning sound/

/Behind the Scenes Intervew: *Ian laughs*/

/Ian on his knees sucking off Brett’s cock as Brett stands./

/Brett on his back, Ian slipping a condom on his cock. *Camera snapshot sounds* Ian sitting on top of Brett, presumably slowly riding his cock as he holds his own dick.*prolific grunts and laughs from both* /

/Quick shot of Ian on top of Brett, Ian’s hands on Brett’s shoulders, arms stretched up supporting himself, presumably entering Brett with his dick.

Brett: That’s a big dick!

Ian: Yeah…/

/Behind the Scenes Interview:

Brett: Yeah I mean, I’m not… I don’t consider myself genderfluid as far as the spectrum – I mean, I’m a dude. So, like… but as far as how I like to fuck that doesn’t fall under traditional male [Brett makes the quotation symbol with his fingers]… “fucking” often, so… [Looks at Ian.] Do you want to edit out that line about biscuits, was that not okay to say…?

Ian: No, no, no.

Brett: Okay. I was gunna explain what a biscuit was.

Ian: My, ugh… It’s just a little weird. My – my extended leather family has a tradition of picking up biscuits. Which is – long story, but it’s just kind of objectifying people so that’s why it’s kind of weird.

*laughs*

Brett: I… I wouldn’t be objectified if you called me a biscuit. *Ian continues giggling*

Ian: E-even though we met at the dyke march, um… we just pretty much hang out… Yanno, like: we’re both bear-identified. That’s one reason, like, how we met on myspace and, um… And cub identified, at that too, and boy identified.

Brett: Right. Many common threads there.

Ian: Um, yeah, so there’s a lot of… We have a lot of different labels. But, yanno, as far as gender stuff, that’s not an issue ‘cause we’re – we’re two guys and we’re, we’re fag-identified, fag… I usually say I’m a fag-identified queer or a queer-identified fag because… yeah. It’s not so much the… *giggles*… the traditional distinctions, um – who I play with.

Brett: Yeah, I like to consider myself an opportune-sexual. But as – as long as they’re hot I’m there. Um, but yeah, yeah – I definitely, yanno – I like the label transfag. It’s really comfortable. And, and yanno – cub feels great and I like getting woofed at, so. *Ian giggles*

Brett: So Ian, why do you like making porn?

Ian: *giggles* Um, I like making porn um… Both, yanno, this porn and um with Trannywood because it’s just fun to show diversity of body types and roles and, um, that it’s not the standard – what you see in most porn stores cause it just – that’s just 95% all the same and then 5% labeled freaks. And it’s, it’s fun to do porn that, um, some people would label freaks, but it’s not: it’s, this is normal sex and it’s hot sex and this is what 95% of the country actually looks like!

Brett: Right.

Ian: Um, so that’s why it’s – it’s hot to do. And then yeah, there’s a little boundary, yanno, doing – pushing – yanno, doing a Pink&White film too. Yanno.

Brett: Yeah. Always fun to push boundaries and step into new waters and play in different places, and ugh… Um, I… Yanno, when – when you first came to me about doing the Couchsurfers project, my first thought was “Well, fuck yeah!” And then I thought, “Oh, well what does that mean that we’re actually gunna do?” And well, and so you know when you explained the process, and I thought “Okay, yanno, this is something that I can really get into. And I like the artistic element as far as getting to really make your own scene. It’s like you come into it not really with a script. It’s just a general idea, and getting to really roll with it. So what you’re seeing on camera isn’t *uses a bored voice* “okay, lift your leg; okay, yanno, poke there“ *Ian laughs* yanno. It’s like no, we’re really having sex – and this is how we have sex!

Ian: Right.

Brett: And it’s really, really hot sex.

Ian: Yeah.

Brett: Wouldn’t you please like to watch it with us?

Ian: Yeah.

Brett: Um, I – I hadn’t seen a whole lot of guys that looked like me on film, and so I feel really happy to – to represent and… *Ian giggles* And um, so yeah, I – I like making porn. Thank you. *Ian laughs* Thanks for inviting a couple of guys into the CrashPad *Ian laughs* – we had a great time here.

Ian: Absolutely.

Brett: Um, yeah and I’d be happy to come back anytime. *laughter*

Ian: Yay.

SHL: Yay. Cool. Alright, thank you guys!/

Fade-out to black.

[Black screen with message: “All performers were 18 years of age or older at time of the productions dating from May 12th 2007 (5/12/07) to the present date. All documentation per 18 USC 2257 is maintained by the custodian of records L. Houston, 2525 16th st 4th flr, San Francisco Ca, 94103. Not to be viewed by minors.”]