[Two shots of Sophia St. James and Chance McKinsey talking after the shoot]

Sophia: So… how did you enjoy the shoot?

[Cut to multiple shots of Chance and Sophia in scene]
Chance: Fuck yeah.

[Cut to alternating shots of Sophia and Chance talking after the shoot]
Chance: Uh, it was amazing, obviously. I loved it, it was really a lot of fun, definitely.
Sophia: Yeah? Yeah, I know I had a great time. I’m so excited I got to work with you for, for Crash Pad.
Chance: Yeah.
Sophia: Yay for coming with me to San Francisco!
Chance: I think this is the first time you’ve fucked me, too… with a strap-on, anyway.
Sophia: Yeah! You’re right.
Chance: It was special. [pronounced spah-cial.] (laughs)
Sophia: It was special! Yaaay! Yeah, I was kinda worried, ‘cause, you know, I didn’t want to hurt you or anything, so…
Chance: Yeah…
Sophia: I’m glad it was good.
Chance: I’ve been… not getting penetrated very often, so—
Sophia: Yeah.
Chance: —it was good, definitely. Took a little bit of build-up, but… so good and so worth it when it got there.
(both laugh)
Sophia: Good, good good.
Chance: Yeah.

[Fade to multiple shots of Chance and Sophia in scene]
(out of frame): Action!
Shine (out of frame): Wait wait wait wait wait! You need the “Come in.”
(out of frame): …you’re ‘sposed to knock…
Chance: Oh, sorry.
(everyone laughs)
Sophia (out of frame): Yay, I’m so glad you were able to come over!
Chance: I know, me too, it’s been so crazy lately.
Sophia: Yeah?
(out of frame): (laughs)
Sophia: —over.
Chance: I know, me too. It’s been kinda crazy at work lately.
(out of frame): (laughs) Slam it! (everyone laughs)
Chance: It’s so not fair, ‘cause I can’t see any of you guys, I can see about this far—
(out of frame): Put your glasses on!
Chance: I can’t!
(out of frame): Why?
Chance: Chance doesn’t wear glasses!
(everyone laughs)

[Fade to alternating shots of Sophia and Chance talking after the shoot]
Sophia: So, what was challenging for you, like, what do you think was kinda difficult?
Chance: Umm… it’s hard to say. Um, this was my first time being flogged…
Sophia: How did you like it?
Chance: …period, let alone on camera—
Sophia: Right? (laughs)
Chance: I did like it. Um, there were, it’s great with you because you just have this, like, sixth sense about when I’m reaching my threshold, like I don’t even need a safe-word, like, it, it was several times where I felt like, “Ok, the next time she hits me, you know, the safe-word’s gonna come out,” and then you’d stop and move on to something else, and I was really thankful for that, and… there’s psychic powers. (laughs)
Sophia: (laughs)
Chance: What was challenging for you?
Sophia: Umm…
Chance: If anything… (clicks tongue) Ahhh…
(both laugh)
Sophia: I, you know, actually, I have—whenever I use my restraints, um, I never think about the under-clothes, and so, like, I’ll take the, um, your clothes off and then tie you up, and, um… then I was like, “Dammit!”
Chance: (laughs) “How do I get to his cock?!”
(both laugh)
Sophia: I know! Totally! But then I, I was, and normally I just cut them off, or, scissors, but these are—
Chance: These are my nice undies! (laughs)
Sophia: —these are sexy! I know, these are sexy undies.
Chance: I’m slowly building up a collection that is, like, not Hanes His-way. (laughs)
Sophia: Right, I figured if I were to get some scissors and, like, cut ‘em, you would be like, “Stop!” (laughs) “Stop it!”
Chance: “Buy me new underwear, bitch!”
(both laugh)
Chance: Totally would have made you buy me new underwear, too. (laughs)
Sophia: What’d you—how were you with the whole choking thing? ‘Cause I know the whole, like, BDSM/kink thing is kinda new to you—
Chance: Yeah…
Sophia: —and it’s absolutely not new to me, so…
Chance: It was good, I was just kinda shocked when you choked me with my own underwear… (laughs)
Sophia: (laughs)
Chance: I’s like, “What’s happening?!”
(both laugh)
Sophia: I was gonna shove ‘em in your mouth, but then I was like, “Ok, that might be a little too much for a, a newbie.”
Chance: No, that would have been fine. (laughs)
Sophia: I will remember that…
Chance: Mmm…
Sophia: Notes for my brain…
Chance: Yeah, alright, file that away for the spank bank.
(both laugh)
Sophia: So, what about, um, porn? Like, why do you, why do you do porn?
Chance: I mean, I’ve watched it since I was old enough to know what happens to Cinemax late at night, and…
(both laugh)
Chance: …um, I remember that, like, that change from going to soft-core and being like, “Ooh… they’re having (whispers) sex.” And then watching hard-core porn and being like, “Oh my god, they’re having sex!”
(both laugh)
Chance: And so, um, just growing up and… seemed like… I don’t know, it seemed like something that would be fun, something that I would enjoy, and I love sex, I think I’m pretty good at it, and I like having sex with other people—
Sophia: Yeah—
Chance: —who are good at it—
Sophia: —right…
Chance: —like yourself! (laughs) So… and I mean, as silly as it is, I always tell people it’s ‘cause I just wanna have some fuckin’ rad stories when I’m, like, 80 years old and in a walker, be like “When I was your age…” (laughs)
Sophia: That’s not silly, I’m gonna be so senile and be in a nursing home, and be like “Come ‘ere!” (laughs)
Chance: Gonna be feeling up the nurses—
Sophia: Totally! (laughs)
Chance: “Ehhhh…” (laughs)
Sophia: (laughs) I’m gonna call the nurses in like every ten minutes, “I got somethin’ to show ya…”
Chance: You’re gonna freak out just so they will, like, actually put you in restraints, be like “Uhh, yeah! Tighter!”—
Sophia: “This is what I’ve been waiting for!”
Chance: —“Tighter!”
(both laugh)
Sophia: Totally…
Chance: Everyone will be watching, like “Oh that poor woman… what’s wrong with her?”
Sophia: She likes it, don’t worry. (laughs) Sophia is… all about that kinda stuff. (laughs)
Chance: Yup.
Sophia: Mmm.
Chance: Mmm. How ‘bout you? I mean, you’ve been in the sex industry in various forms for, what, close to 20 years now, right? No, not that much, 15, 14…
Sophia: Fifteen.
Chance: Fifteeen. Still.
Sophia: Yeah.
Chance: ‘S a long time.
Sophia: Mmhmm. I do it because I enjoy it. I mean, I started off as a stripper, and, like, a., you know, like, I do porn because it’s definitely a way that I can express myself, and, um, being, like, a queer femme of color, and, um… a “BBW,” (laughs) I, you know, I really enjoy, um, kinda breaking down the stereotypes of, like your typical scenes of what you see black women in, it’s, it’s, you know, it’s not like (imitates “porn music”)
(both laugh)
Chance: Like, the blaxploitation—
Sophia: Yeah, the blaxploitation movies! “I’ma git you sucka!” (imitates “blaxploitation/porn music”)
Chance: “Jive turkey…”
(both laugh)
Sophia: Ok, so anyway…
Chance: Yeah…
Sophia: (laughs) So, it’s not, you know, it’s definitely breaking down those stereotypes and showing that, you know, I’m, I’m a, I guess, “normal,” you know, kinky queer femme that—
Chance: Yeah.
Sophia: —enjoys fucking and having sex, and doing it in a way that’s not degrading—
Chance: Yeah.
Sophia: —or, um—
Chance: It’s mutual and fun.
Sophia: Yeah, exactly. It’s mutual and fun, and, uh… it’s something I totally enjoy—
Chance: Yeah…
Sophia: —meet cool people…
Chance: Yeah, for sure.
Sophia: Yay…
Chance: I know, it’s definitely been, um, totally instrumental in me developing my sexuality a bit more, and… learning a lot, and… I mean, I didn’t really start messing around with male-bodied people until I was twenty-one, and that’s been fun for me, and, um, as a trans guy, I mean, it’s great to just have that visibility, and just to know that, you know, we’re sexy, and here’s proof, so it’s really great to have that—
Sophia: Yeah.
Chance: —we should totally have a porn called like, “Alphabet Soup”—
Sophia: (laughs)
Chance: —and it can be “BBW, FTM, MTF,” (laughs) What other—
Sophia: “LGBTQIABCDEFG”
(both laugh)
Chance: Exactly, we’ll be amazing.
Sophia: Yeah, no… Well, I’m glad I got to share this experience with you, ‘cause you’re awesome—
Chance: Absolutely…
Sophia: You’re by bestie—
Chance: Exactly!
Sophia: —you’re my baby-daddy. (laughs)
Chance: Mmhmm.
(both laugh)
Sophia: Mmm. Yay.

[Fade to multiple shots of Chance and Sophia in scene]
Chance: Fuck… (moans)

[Fade to alternating shots of Chance and Sophia talking after the shoot]
Sophia: You know, I really love working with Crash Pad because it’s all about, like, what… we want to do, you know? It’s like, it’s not, you come in and it’s scripted, it’s like “I don’t feel”—
Chance: Yeah… (laughs)
Sophia: —“comfortable with that,” it’s like, “Oh well, figure out how to become comfortable with it.” (laughs)
Chance: (laughs) “Suck it up…”
Sophia: Yeah. It’s like, I really enjoy being able to—like we talked about what we’re gonna do, and we changed it a few times, or, like, how are we gonna start, and, um, the whole, like, negotiation process, to me, is part of the porn, part of the sexuality, it’s part of the sexiness, the whole safer-sex, the whole negotiation, making sure, like, not only am I turned on and feeling safe an…, you know, everything, but making sure, like, my lover is—
Chance: Yeah.
Sophia: —turned on and safe and is just as comfortable as I am.
Chance: Yeah.
Sophia: So, I’m really…
Chance: I agree, I love that feeling of, just, safety and openness, and, coming into this, especially as a newbie, like, I didn’t really know, you know, how the shoots go, you only see the end product, and it’s like, “Ooh, that’s all sexy,” and it’s like, you know, where the weird fart noises that happen—
Sophia: (laughs) Right!?
Chance: —when your (inaudible) squishes together, and I mean, you know me, I am the biggest dork in the world, and smiling and laughter are such a big part of sex to me—
Sophia: Yeah!
Chance: —and, like, if I couldn’t be a dork, it wouldn’t be as much fun, and so—
Sophia: Right.
Chance: —I’m glad that there’s that openness and there’s that freedom that’s like “Oh, it’s ok, we’ll just cut it out later,” (laughs)
Sophia: Yeah, well it’s fun—
Chance: “Or leave it in if it’s great.”
Sophia: Yeah.
Chance: “If it works with it…”
Sophia: Yeah, well I’m, you know me, I’m silly, and I like to laugh and what-not, so, and I, that’s just who I am, so I’m glad that that can be incorporated, or that can be, not so much incorporated but, like, part of the scene, because they kinda just take you for who you are and they—
Chance: Yeah…
Sophia: —combine you sexy people together to portray, like beautiful, sexy, seductiveness, and…
Chance: I think knowing that people are watching and that it’s supposed to be there for entertainment just pushes you that extra mile, and it’s like, “Yeah, I’ma give you some.”
Sophia: (laughs) “Someone’s gonna be watchin’ me!” (laughs)
Chance: Gives you that extra little… boost of sugar you need. (laughs)
Sophia: Right, right.
(both laugh)
Sophia: “We’re all exhibitionists…”
Chance: (laughs)
Sophia: “All four wall are glass!” (laughs)
Chance: I mean, go big or go home, right? (laughs)
Sophia: Totally. (laughs) Yay, well I’m, like I said I’m glad that you were able to come down to Cali with me…
Chance: Yeah, it’s been an incredible experience.
Sophia: Yay. (laughs)

(Transcription by Nic Bravo)