[Opening shots of Jiz Lee, J-Bird Star, and Shine Louise Houston on the Crash Pad set]
Shine: Yeah, too far—ok, I’m gonna move you—ok, dupp—
(out of frame): (inaudible)
(out of frame): …tiny bit more… (out of frame): (inaudible) …weird.
Shine: …and that’s perfect, ok. Hold on.
(out of frame): Ok.
Shine: Do not move!
J-Bird: Ok.
[Cut to shot of J-Bird opening the Crash Pad door during the shoot]
Jiz: Good, you brought it.
Shine: …and cut! Let’s do it one more time, J remember to close the door.
J-Bird (whispered): Shit!
(out of frame): (laughter)
J-Bird: Is this after—
Shine: Yeah, after the—
J-Bird: —that, ok
(out of frame): (everyone talking at once)
J-Bird: Ok, I’ll just—
Shine: —‘cause I can see it.
J-Bird: —unless you—
Shine: That’s ok.
J-Bird: —ok.
Shine: Ok. Alright.
(out of frame): …can’t have Crash Pad Series with the door open! (laughs)
Shine: I know, it’s just wrong! …alright? And… action.
[Cut to Jiz and J-Bird lying on a bed, talking after the shoot]
(out of frame): What did you like about the shoot today?
J-Bird: (whispers) Oh, god… (normal voice) I liked everything about the shoot, I liked… uhh, the foot licking, and, umm, fisting… Jiz, and… umm, the cuddle after, all of it, it’s, it was… really awesome.
Jiz: Mmhmm. Ahhhh. I, I really liked the shoot as well, uh, what I liked about it, besides getting a chance to work with you, because, um… uh you’ve been wanting to do porn and I’ve been wanting to do porn with you…
(both laugh)
Jiz: … uh, was, I liked the switch-y chemistry that we have?
J-Bird: Mmhmm…
Jiz: Umm… and, I liked, uh, I—I liked that I felt a little bit more top-y, or at least I had an opportunity to be more top-y, it felt, um… I felt like I could toss you around a lot and that was fun.
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
Jiz: Um, I like slapping your face… I liked looking at your face ‘cause it’s so cute.
J-Bird: (laughs)
Jiz: Um, sorry, I’m a little punch… drunk, um… uh, fuck drunk! Uhh…
J-Bird: (laughs) Fuck drunk…
Jiz: Um, it’s been a while since I’ve been fisted and, um, and… that was really nice, it felt really good. And, uh, also sometimes I have a hard time, like, coming clitorally with a camera there, um, so it felt really good to… to come! And not, and um, to be able to have that space, and, and what your hand was doing while I was coming was really awesome.
J-Bird: Yeah?
Jiz: So yeah, there was a lot of really great things about it. I really liked having your hands restricted—
J-Bird: Mmm.
Jiz: —with the collar while you were holding the vibrator and seeing you kinda struggle because you had to be, like, up while you were—
J-Bird: Yeah…
Jiz: —while you were doing it. Um, yeah… your crotch looks great, I like watching it while I was fucking you.
[Cut to J-Bird and Jiz in scene]
[Fade to J-Bird and Jiz talking after the shoot]
(both laughing)
Jiz: Were there any hard parts for you?
J-Bird: Oh, god. Um, the fisting part I felt like took a lot longer than I was expecting to, so, um, it’s, it was a lot of stamina and, like, I think that’s something I’ll just start getting used to. And, um, yeah it’s a little… it needs a rundown later. Um, and… yeah, it was, it was really hard to, um, put the vibrator on my clit while you were fucking me, and, but, it was worth it. It paid off at the very end. So—
Jiz: Yeah.
J-Bird: —those were the only really hard parts, other than that, everyone’s fuckin’ awesome, and you’re awesome, so, I had a great time. (laughs)
Jiz: Did you, um, were you aware of the cameras, or was it hard to…
J-Bird: (laughs) Um, I… looked at the camera maybe once, but for the most part I just, I wanted… I loved that people were in here and watching and filming and taking photographs so I just kinda wanted to like, look at someone’s face for one second and then go back to where I was going and I think I caught someone’s eye! And um, but… (laughs)
Jiz: And I was just like (inaudible), not even (inaudible) (laughs)
J-Bird: (laughs) …yeah, but other than that I was really comfortable and really into it, so cameras never bothered me at all.
Jiz: That’s awesome. I felt like sometimes I would be aware of where like where my leg, where my lower leg was—
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
Jiz: —with the camera, so I was worried that it was, like…
J-Bird: Blocking…
Jiz: Yeah, so then I’d have to reposition, and I just kept on changing a little bit. It was a little bit of work, like, not worried, but just aware of it.
J-Bird: Yeah. No, I was definitely aware of, like, I… normally wouldn’t spread my legs, like, that wide, you know? But I was just like, “Ok, there’s a camera there, so I should probably go lower…”
Jiz: Yeah, yeah.
J-Bird: Yeah.
J-Bird: It’s good. (laughs)
Jiz: I had this, like, fantasy when I was coming, about like, this like, person at home watching, this certain person. Umm…(laughs)
J-Bird: (laughs)
Jiz: At home watching, and, like, so I was like, I was coming for the camera. And you as well!
J-Bird: Oh no, it’s fine, whatever! (laughs)
Jiz: We didn’t talk about fantasies or anything, but… yeah, um, uhh… Yeah, I didn’t really have any obstacles besides just kinda being aware of the camera I think.
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
[Fade to a new clip of J-Bird and Jiz talking after the shoot]
J-Bird: It’s really nice to be in this space right now, and, like, I feel honored.
Jiz: Awww!
J-Bird: And, I’m like—
Jiz: Yay.
J-Bird: —I’m really, and I do it because, like, I love… I love sex, I love people, I love people watching me have sex, and, like, it’s, it’s like, there’s no question why I wouldn’t do it. So—
Jiz: Yeah.
J-Bird: —what about you? (laughs)
Jiz: Why do I do porn? (both laugh)
Jiz: Um, well my answer right now, ‘cause it’s, uhh… I guess there’s like the personal reason why I do it and then there’s, um, this more grandiose, like, theory about why I do it, blah blah blah.
J-Bird: (laughs)
Jiz: I don’t know, the theory part—I think is kinda cool, I think that, um, uhh, for queer, like, intimate queer stories to be represented, um, porn is, like, the one medium right now that actually has the potential to do it in a way that’s uncensored, especially Crash Pad, like, we get to fist! (laughs)
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
Jiz: But, to be able to have that presented, I mean, Hollywood does, like, a really shitty job of representing queer lives, and, uh, everything’s censored or it’s toned down or it’s, the storyline is changed in such a way that, um, it’s not completely accurate. Um, so I think that queer porn has all this, like, wide open, you know, frontier for people from different backgrounds—
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
Jiz: —different histories and experiences to be able to… to have their, their, really intimate, uh, shit out there for, for others to share. So, that’s my theory part of it. Um, personally I’m single right now, and, uh—(laughs)
(everyone laughs)
Jiz: Um—
J-Bird: Oh, hey…
Jiz: —I mean, I’m dating, I’m dating… I’m dating… and, but I’m, I’m… you know… I like, I like hooking up with people. (laughs) Um, we met at, um, BAGG [Bondage-a-Go-Go]—
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
Jiz: —um, uh, that was, like, a couple months ago—
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
Jiz: —and, um, I was getting tied up, and I looked over, and this one was, like, giving me this eye. (laughs) You were giving me this eye—
J-Bird: Uh, what! You were giving me the eye.
(both laugh)
J-Bird: Whatever!
Jiz: And I was like, damn, who is that? And, um, you had, like, been in the city for, like, a day? Right?
J-Bird: Pretty much, yeah.
Jiz: Like, you were like, super fresh meat.
(both laugh)
Jiz: Um, but uh, I… did you… did I offer to slap your face? Or did you…
J-Bird: Well—
Jiz: —ask me too?
J-Bird: —you were giving someone else—
Jiz: —slapping someone else…
J-Bird: —spanking, spanking.
Jiz: Ok.
J-Bird: And then, I was kind of like, well, if, you know, this person is giving it out, maybe I should ask, and I did.
Jiz: So I slapped your face a lot, and I slapped your butt—
J-Bird: Oh my gosh yeah.
Jiz: —and I sent you home with bruises?
J-Bird: For days.
Jiz: Yeah. And, uh, and then I was speaking at Berk—UC Berkeley female sexuality class and you were there, which was awesome, so I was glad seeing you there.
J-Bird: Yeah.
Jiz: And, uh, we talked a bit about you wanting to do porn…
J-Bird: Mmhmm… and here I am!
Jiz: Yeah! (both laugh)
Jiz: It’s that easy. It’s that easy.
J-Bird: (laughs)
[Cut to alternating shots of Jiz and J-Bird in scene]
Jiz: Yeah?
J-Bird: Yeah.
Jiz: Yeah? You want me to spit on you? Hmm? You want me to spit on you?
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
Jiz: Where do you want me to spit on you?
J-Bird: Right here.
Jiz: Right here?
J-Bird: Mmhmm.
Jiz: Say you want me to spit on you. Say it.
J-Bird: I want you to spit on me. (laughs) Please.
Jiz: Yeah?
J-Bird: Please.
(both laugh)
J-Bird: You tease! Mmm, oh fuck.
Jiz: Yeah?
J-Bird: Ohh, fuck.
Jiz: Come here.
[Cut to J-Bird and Jiz talking after the shoot]
Jiz: Um, I wanted to ask you, like, sometimes, you know, you read things on, not forums, but like, various places, and uh, you see reviews for other porn and stuff, people like “Ahh, spitting.” But you like spitting, we actually, ‘cause we were talking about, you know, our boundaries, but I forgot to mention biting, sorry. (laughs) I was like, “No! Don’t bite me.” Um, uhh… so, you actually, like, flat out said when we were talking on the phone earlier, like, “I really like spitting, like, I want to be spat on.” Um, and, um… and I was just (laughs) thinking, I was, like, so dorky in the scene, ‘cause I was like, asking you, like, making sure that you’re like “Yes, spit on me, spit on me,” ‘cause, like, I don’t want people to think that like I just randomly spit on people if they don’t like it. So what do you like about spitting?
J-Bird: Mmm… I just kinda like feeling dirty, you know?
Jiz: Yeah?
J-Bird: Like, I feel like getting spat on is like… most people might see it as, like, degrading or whatever, like “You’re spitting on someone!” but I think it’s like, hella sexy. And, just feeling someone’s saliva drippin’ all over my face or various other parts of my body, just like, I can’t describe it other than it just really turns me on, and I love seeing porn, letting people getting spat on, and, you know?
Jiz: Mmhmm.
J-Bird: So…
Jiz: Did it bother you that it took me so long to spit on your face during our shoot? Like—
J-Bird: Oh, when you were asking me?
Jiz: Yeah, was I a tease? Or were you just like—
J-Bird: You were a tease! No-no-no, no, I fucking loved it. I love getting teased—
Jiz: Oh, good.
J-Bird: —yeah.
Jiz: Good. I like the way it looked on your cheek, when it was right, like, sitting right here…
J-Bird: I can’t wait to see it!
Jiz: Yeah.
(both laugh)
Shine (out of frame): Awesome. Thanks guys!
J-Bird: Bye!
(everyone laughs)
[Cut to Jiz and J-Bird in scene]
(Transcribed by Nic Bravo)