(phone ringing)

TRICKSIE: Red, it’s Tricksie. Meet me at the Crash Pad. I know what you did to my brother. Get your ass here because I’m going to kick your ass. Oh, that was too many asses. Can I do that again? (laughter from TRICKSIE and offscreen).

RED: What the hell? Dark in here. That bitch didn’t show up, and I was gonna kick her ass.

(laughter from RED and TRICKSIE)

(from offscreen, UNKNOWN SPEAKER: And now, she’s behind that pole right here.)

TRICKSIE: I’ve got other plans for you.

RED: Oh yeah, like what? (laughter)

(from offscreen, UNKNOWN SPEAKER: So, since you know the questions, why don’t you give it a start?)

RED: Ok. So, Tricksie, what did you like about the shoot?

TRICKSIE: (laughs). Ummm…I liked a lot of things about the shoot. I especially liked getting to play with you and make out with you because I’ve been wanting to do that for a couple years (laughs).

RED: Really?

TRICKSIE: Yeah.

RED: That’s so cute.

TRICKSIE: Yeah, and I liked getting fucked really hard. It’s been a long time.

RED: Yeah, that was fun for me too.

TRICKSIE: Yeah? What about you?

RED: Umm…I like your thighs. So, every time I got to fondle those, that was a highlight for me.

TRICKSIE: (laughs)

RED: Umm…I liked it when you were domme-ing me. I liked…the spanking was awesome. The spanking was probably my favorite part.

TRICKSIE: Thanks.

RED: Or one of my favorite parts.

TRICKSIE: Yeah, I loved the spanking.

RED: Yeah. I like a good beating.

(offscreen. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: When you do the spanking, can you be uhhh…horizontal?)

TRICKSIE: Vertical?

RED: The opposite…90 degrees from where you are.

TRICKSIE: Look at this perfect ass.

RED: It’s just for you Tricksie.

TRICKSIE: Yes!

(crosstalk, spanking)

TRICKSIE: I could do this all day.

RED: Oh yeah, I bet you could. (laughter from TRICKSIE)

TRICKSIE: I’ve got more plans.

RED: So what was a challenge for you?

TRICKSIE: A challenge for me…umm…figuring out the monkey chair (laughter from RED) or what it’s called. Figuring out like how to like continue to be all, a little bit domme-y and work that crazy contraption because it’s like a little clown toy.

RED: Yeah.

TRICKSIE: (laughs) But it was hilarious and awesome and I loved it and I like putting silly humor into sexy situations.

RED: Me too. I think that humor is one of the sexiest things. Umm, yeah, I think that was the biggest challenge for me, too, because I was just like (laughs) tied up, and the dildo fell out, and I was like “I don’t know what to do.” (laughter from TRICKSIE and RED). Because I couldn’t put it back in, so that was one challenge. Another challenge is, I feel like it’s always…kind of…scary, when you’re having sex with someone you’ve never had sex with before…

TRICKSIE: Yeah.

RED: And the camera is added pressure.

TRICKSIE: Mmm-hmmm.

RED: But, I don’t know. I feel like we did each other justice.

TRICKSIE: (laughs) Yeah, I think so too.

RED: Yeah.

SHINE LOUISE HOUSTON: OK.

RED: I like the width of this one but the length of this one. Umm…depends what angle it’s coming at me from. So what’s the angle? So I’m sitting on it…this…with my…facing this way?

SHINE LOUISE HOUSTON: Ummm (inaudible)

RED: I could use the longer one.

SHINE LOUISE HOUSTON: Longer one?

RED: Oh wow. This gets up really high. This is gonna be a deep fuck.

TRICKSIE: I’m going to practice a little bit.

(camera snapping)

(moaning)

RED: It fell out again.

(camera snapping)

RED: I think maybe I need a different angle or something (laughter from TRICKSIE)

(offscreen. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Monkey rockers are great!)

(laughter)

(offscreen. UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Yeah, get it! C’mon buddy!)

(laughter)

TRICKSIE: Why do you like doing porn?

RED: I like doing porn ‘cause I like to have sex (laughter from TRICKSIE) and…umm…I like doing porn because I feel like it’s…it’s like a really stigmatized form of creative expression.

TRICKSIE: Mmm-hmmm

RED: Yeah, it’s…it’s a cool way to like express a certain set of yourself, and especially when you’re doing, like, you know, like queer indie porn, you just get all this creative freedom and, yeah, it’s fun. What about you?

TRICKSIE: Umm…I like doing this kind of porn because…there’s so much crappy porn out there…

RED: Mmm-hmmm

TRICKSIE: That it’s like I feel like I’m helping to gift the world, the universe, with, like good porn, with real sex, with, like real people. Not that mainstream porn stars aren’t real people, but, ummm…you know, it’s just more real, like more realistic, and more like…and kinkier, and you can just be silly, and you can say all the cheesy lines and not take yourself seriously and just, like, yeah, just kind of, it’s just like…you can be sweet and cute, or you can be really nasty at the same time, in the same shoot.

RED: It totally shows the different side of people.

TRICKSIE: Mmmm-hmmm

RED: When it is like unscripted, err, like, you know, just limited scripting…just get to play around.

TRICKSIE: Well, we’ve gotta put all this aggression somewhere.

(camera snapping)

RED: What are you going to do to me? I’m a naughty boy.

TRICKSIE: You are a naughty boy. I’m going to do whatever I want to.

(camera snapping)

(moaning)

RED: What else do you wanna say?

TRICKSIE: (laughs) ummm….most importantly, I had lots and lots of fun.

RED: Yeah?

TRICKSIE: Yeah (laughter from RED AND TRICKSIE)

RED: Me too (laughter from RED AND TRICKSIE)

TRICKSIE: Good.