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Evie: How did you enjoy the shoot today?

Gem: I really loved it. It was really fun. I think I really like making porn with friends, especially because it’s a different way to know each other. It always feels playful, kind of, no matter what the scene is. What about you?

Evie: It was super fun. Yeah. Yeah. I have genuinely, like, been wanting to hook up with you for so long. And we haven’t had the occasion until now, so that’s sexy.

Gem: It feels fun to save it for the camera, for me. I feel like there was a lot of that. I was like, “Oh, we’ve been talking about this …and like, our compatibilities” And now I’m such an exhibitionist. And I know that you are, too. We get to show off. It feels fun.

Evie: Yeah. 

Gem: What felt challenging for you?

Evie: I feel pretty easy about it.

Gem: That’s great.

Evie: I can’t think of anything. What was challenging for you?

Gem: I mean, I think for me, I always have this moment of wanting to. just like, especially if I’m topping, I’m just like, Ooh, I want you to have the best time. You know? And just reading each other’s cues. And I think it’s really fun to have the moment of figuring out, Oh, when Snax is having a great time, they are like, fully melted, you know? And that feels… challenging to figure out sometimes, but also really good. And, you know, I would say restraining my urges to bite (laughs) feels challenging. But no, I think that that was – that was the main thing. But it feels more interesting than anything.

Evie: Mm hmm. Yeah. What are your safer sex practices and why?

Gem: I get tested between new partners, and every three months, if there isn’t a new partner. And I like to know my status and be able to communicate that to new partners and scene partners. And I use barriers when I’m concerned about fluid exchange, and then I like to be able to negotiate person to person for, like, hand sex, whether or not to use gloves. And yeah, I’d say my main practice, honestly, is open communication. Regular testing and open communication.

Evie: What a great answer.

Gem: Thank you so much. What about you?

Evie: Safer sex practices? Open communication. I love it. Yeah. Similar. Like communicating with partners about status and like what I am doing. I love barriers. I love using barriers. Um, I get tested regularly, and I just don’t have a lot of partners that I share fluids with.

Gem: Yeah. Yeah. Same. We’ve both done porn before. Why do you continue to do it?

Evie: I do it for the culture.

Gem: Hell yeah you do!

Evie: I love queer porn. I’m very inspired by queer porn. I love that it exists. It feels like it exists outside of, um, the art world and also outside of capitalism in a way

Gem: Totally 

Evie: It’s kind of in a sweet spot where we do it because we believe in it and we have to express ourselves and we have to document ourselves. So, yeah, I just, I believe in queer porn as something that’s not quite, um, normally deemed an art form, but I believe that it should be. Yeah. Given that kind of status.

Gem: And there’s, like, community value.

Evie: There’s so much. Yeah, it’s healing. It’s, it, it brings people together. It gives people a sense of there being other people like us out there. So yeah, I’m just a big supporter of queer porn and I got to do it to contribute. Something like that. What about you? Why do you do?

Gem: Similar reasons. I think queer porn is where I first desired myself. Um, like watching people who had some kind of gender fuckery, a little more masculine, maybe more androgynous gender presentations fucking. And like me, not only being hot for them and being like, Wow, that person’s so hot. Maybe I’m gay, but also just being like, Oh, actually I yeah, I desire myself. And I think that that’s really important. And I similarly want to, you know, do it for the culture and just think it’s really important. And honestly, sometimes I feel most like myself when I’m fucking or performing or being able to embody different parts of myself through my sexuality. And I really like to share that. And I think it’s really beautiful.

Evie: Look at us now!

Gem: I know!

Evie: Is there anything else that you want to say?

Gem: Yeah, definitely, I’d say that at least for me, I imagine you might be the same. I’m a fisting evangelist. I think it’s great. I think it’s the best sex act, you know, among so many best. But it’s so wonderful 

Evie: The best of the best!

Gem: We’ve been talking about it for a long time. A thing I say often and I really mean it is that my hand is my favorite sexual organ

Evie: And mine too.

Gem: Yeah, I think it’s amazing. So yeah. I want more fisting porn. I love it. I think it’s a great way to bond. I love hand sex, especially topping, because I think there’s this connotation that it’s not getting the top off to be fisting someone, which is just wrong. Like, obviously, we all know that. And I also another thing I wanted to say is that your beautiful nails are wonderful and that people I think there’s like a lot of you know, there’s some bullshit out there about, you know, femmes with long nails like can’t fuck, and it’s just not true. Um, so anyway, so I wanted to have that on camera, and I’m really glad we got to and also have different ways of that, like topping or fisting, bottoming for fisting. Topping for fisting doesn’t have to be strictly along like more dominant, more submissive roles. And I think that that is also cool to have on camera.

Evie: Mm hmm. 

Gem: What about you? Anything.

Evie: Mm hmm. I guess I just feel like we are, like, such freaks and sluts, but it’s. It’s like, okay to be at any point on the spectrum. Wherever you land and whatever kind of stuff you’re into, like, there’s some, you know, like we’re into it all.

Gem: Totally.

Evie: It’s all cute and good as long as it’s consensual. Yeah.

Gem: Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I’m thinking about, like, something that’s traditionally sexual or sensual or like, hot can be like one version for something else. It could be something totally.

Evie: Sex can take so many different forms, and sexuality and eroticism can take so many different forms. And like, today was very like, fucking-centric, but there’s a world of possibilities out there.

Gem: But, you know, your heels fucked my mouth first. So that’s like a whole other – 

Evie: You went right in on the fetish. 

Gem: I sure did! I love them. Anyway, thank you so much.

(Shine, off camera) Yeah

Evie: Is a hot dog a sandwich or a taco? I’m gonna say it’s a sandwich.

Gem: I think it’s a sandwich.

Evie: A taco is with a tortilla. Corn, ideally.

Gem: Yeah.

Evie: Unless you do it Texas breakfast style. But I would like to align myself with the sandwich side.

Gem: Yeah, I’d say it’s a sandwich and I’d say, you know, we’re here deconstructing the categories. So.

Evie: So it’s outside the – It’s a false binary?

Gem: Yeah! It’s a false binary! Is a taco a sandwich? I don’t know.

Evie: No.

Gem: I agree. I think a taco’s a taco.

Evie: A sandwich is with bread and has meat in between the buns.

Gem: What about it? It’s a slippery slope.