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INTRO MUSIC

Bear: How did you enjoy the sheet today?

Tree: I had a great time. I always feel a tiny bit nervous coming in, but then I relax once we really start.

Bear: Yeah

Tree: And I always enjoy it. Yeah.

Bear: Yeah.

Tree: How did you enjoy the shoot?

Bear: Um, it was great. It was warmer this time so that was awesome. Shout out to the camera crew for it being hot today for us, we appreciate it. Yeah, it was really good. I think I like the wired Magic Wand better though.

Tree: Oh yeah.

Bear: Yeah.It’s got more [buzzzzz] to it. That… I don’t know. Just me? Anyway. Okay, cool. Looks like some consensus. I was like, I can’t find the setting! Okay. Cool. Anyway. Okay next.

What, if anything, was challenging about the shoot for you, babe?

Honestly I think for me it was just coming out of… years of not being around as many people due to COVID and and years of not being as sexually adventurous as I used to be and kind of just getting back into that mindset of… I don’t know, just being more out there and visible and figuring out my own…feeling good about myself and things like that. Yeah.

All the lead up to it and everything.

Tree: What was the most difficult thing for you about the shoot?

I think a lot of the same. Definitely before… like us as a couple and separately, we’re both much more active and queer, poly… polyam, sex and kink, and things like that beforehand. And, I don’t know, I felt like, on the way here, I was like, Oh my gosh. Do I remember how to have sex? Or feel sexy? That part?I feel like the last two years have kind of taken sexy off the table a little bit for me, I don’t know. I think I was just trying to feel good in my body you know

Tree: Yeah.

Bear: But I did for the most part it was just definitely nerve-wracking… I don’t know, I feel a lot of mixed emotions but also I was excited to – We’ve been saying a lot lately that we’ve been feeling a little too isolated and I think a lot of friends have been echoing the same. I want to be safe about COVID-19 and safe about safe sex practices but it’s kind of been daunting.

And I think I finally moved to a place where I’m willing to do the work to figure out how to be more interactive with people again, in person. I’m so tired of my phone.

Anyways, I think all that stuff was running through my head and it was really nice to be in a space that was familiar and with people that were familiar

Yeah. It helped me calm down and enjoy it.

Bear: What are your safer practices and why?

Tree: Well, um… Lately, Although we’ve always been poly, the last few years we’ve really only been with each other for the most part

Bear: Yeah

Tree: And, um… So yeah, I mean we… we’re fluid-bonded with each other and not really seeing anybody else. So I mean, the safer sex stuff has mostly just come down to like all the COVID stuff and then we weren’t seeing anybody else because of that, mostly and then, and we’re still cautious about that. But I mean, like we were kind of saying earlier because we had to stop seeing other people and interacting with other people as closely.

We got used to that.

Yeah

What are – Do you have anything to add about safer sex practices?

Yeah, I think it’s all – it’s all the same stuff but also navigating… we all knew, we all know the things and, you know, the condoms and double dams, and like testing and all those things, but it’s weird, it hasn’t really been a part of my vocabulary for like the last like 2 years, which is such a strange thing to collectively, all be experiencing on some level at varying levels.

So yeah… I don’t know.

Those are all the things I would do.

But now the conversations are a little bit different and what that looks like cuz if not, I don’t think… there’s a lot — there’s more anxiety, and a different type of anxiety, even I think now.

Yeah

Cuz there’s all these things we have to consider besides STIs and STDs, and things like that.

So, yeah it’s definitely a lot to parse at times but I think

I can speak for myself then feeling more open, to figuring out how to parse it. you know,

Honestly, not to start crying or anything but I really need to not just be alone at my house anymore I don’t know what else to say! That’s my answer. I’m going to cut it there

LAUGHS

Yeah, Love my home. I’m grateful for it, also. Universe, don’t misunderstand! Anyway…

If you’ve done porn before, why do you continue to do it? And if not, why did you come in to do it today?

The only porn I’ve done is here at CrashPad. It’s our third time, and I’ve enjoyed it every time. I haven’t really felt the desire to…model or shoot with any other in any other setting. Just cuz I’ve had such a good experience here. It’s kind of fun. I enjoy it. So that’s why I keep doing it. I used to do sex work and porn was – Doing the CrashPad shoots always felt like a kind of nice thing that was similar but like different and I enjoyed that it was different

And, um… This just sort of came up out of the blue and I work in a very different sort of career now. Yeah, It felt good to come back to this at a different point in life and – and still have fun with it.
What about you? Have you done it before? Have you done it outside of these three CrashPad shoots?

Yeah, um… back in the day…back in the day…I definitely… I didn’t…. So I dabbled with it, they weren’t always great experiences. That’s all I’m gonna say about that. And it was in LA and there were experiences… And so it was always something I wanted to do but I couldn’t feel like — I never felt like I could find a safe space to do that and feel comfortable doing what we’ve done here

Tree: as trans women, that aren’t super fetishized, yeah

Bear: That, and just, fitting into certain body types that’s always been my big thing. I’m not tiny and I probably never will be. So it’s like okay listen.That doesn’t mean I’m not hot too. And there’s a lot of stigma around those types of things. And fatphobia. And just like, which I think is such a funny word, fatphobia. You’re not scared of me cause I’m fat. Anyway…. I keep doing it cuz it makes me feel liberated. If that sounds like a cheesy statement, I’ve been allowing cheese into my life more, lately. If that makes sense, you know, I feel liberated. I feel… you know… I want to dance and sing after I do this each time and feel good and …

Yeah, I don’t know. It makes me feel good to come here and do it in this space. cuz this is like one of the first times I had such a good experience and I was talking to Jiz before this, before we shot like hey, I wanted Jiz to know I had a friend who heard me say all the things I said about my experiences in LA with shooting and different things like that. And she was like, you should look into CrashPad! I was like, What? Like yeah, it’s really dope. See? Great ad for ya’ll.

What was your favorite thing about quarantine?

Bear: That’s a tough one, okay! Curious…

Tree:
Honestly, it was when my meetings at work went… we basically stopped having them or they were like instead of every day, in person in the morning, they were once a week, over the phone or something. That was nice!

Yeah! You could just hit mute and walk around and listen until somebody said something that was relevant to you.

Oh, yeah yeah yeah.

That’s fair!

Tree: What was your favorite thing? If you can think of one?

Bear: I was trying to be good and not start answering without you asking.

Tree: Oh yeah, sorry

Bear: You know…. Oddly enough, my career kind of took off in the middle of COVID which is strange, because I know that’s not everybody’s experience.

And I understand the magical things, and privilege around that… But it did. And it was cool because I’ve never been…I’ve always been awkward…. like in my career what I do I’ve always been kind of awkward and different, and I’m socially capable for certain periods of time but my job sometimes requires me to be way more socially capable than I actually am and so then suddenly it was like virtual concerts and it was beat videos and things like that And I started doing things like that. And I kind of got a chance to get seen without being in front of people all the time which gave me a lot of confidence and now I want to go out and get back in front of people and perform and do things like that in my field. And I don’t know, yeah

I think I was really surprised, COVID was really hard. I got really sick. And it tried to take me out with that pneumonia. So that was a thing, but — or, and? I think it’s a “butt and.” Butt and, I learned a lot about my craft. I actually am the nerd who leaned into figuring out even more shit about what I do and I was like, now I feel so sharp! And, I don’t know, I honed these skills that make me feel really sharp. I feel really proud of that.

Tree: Yeah, you should!

Bear: That out of so much darkness, I was able to find something so beautiful and get more in touch with what I do in my craft. So yeah, I think that was my favorite thing. Hard thing to sift out of my favorite things but I think that’s my favorite thing, okay! Shout out to Mister Christoph — no, wait. Mister Mistoffelees, Queso, and Lady Grey. These are our three cats.

Tree: On my gosh, when you said you’ve been trying to let more cheese into your life, I thought of our cat being named Queso!

Bear: I knew you thought of Queso!

LAUGHS

Bear: They’re at home running around the land and we’ll go find them at some point and feed them. So, yeah

Yeah, the kitties got us through. Okay?

The cuddles of the kitties. Okay.

Furry cuddles
Oh, and video games. Oh my god. So many video games.

We just got a new one. We’re probably going to do that when we get home, too.

Yeah! Anyway… Okay. I’m done.

LAUGHS